2024 with a two-term HRC presidency

[Samof94]

Will no doubt get pushback on this but I don't think any president would win reelection in 2020, at least not easily. Because COVID was so uniquely controversial in the US- there was always going to be an anti-mask and anti-lockdown element- there's bound to be pushback from that direction, and Clinton wouldn't have a lot of room to lose support running for a then-unprecedented fourth term of one party administration having already won on a squeaker assuming the freiwal map in 2016. Not impossible, but very much an uphill fight.

Agreed. The US dodged a bullet in 2016, as between Covid, Hillary's flatlining approvals, apathy in young voters convinced the presidency was now a lock and didn't require their vote, and a fourth consecutive Dem mandate, a 2020 blowout was on the cards.

Let's just imagine the horror of Trump's rabid 74 million voters coming out vs. Hillary's lethargic 65m.

Don't forget that there was a group of left-wing voters who hated Hillary.

[Samof94]

Don't forget that there was a group of left-wing voters who hated Hillary.

I could easily see asymmetric apathy leading to a GOP +5 year in 2020 under Clinton, which would be a 35 state landslide.

I can image 2018 being ugly in this timeline too. Just imagine GOP ads tying blue state Govs to Hillary and a Republican win in Oregon.