What party would you vote for in Canada?

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Make that 3 for the NDP

Although there is a small chance I might vote Conservative.

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Sorry about that last post, I don't have a working mouse, and accidentally pressed enter when I shouldn't have.

Anyways, to answer your question, BRTD I do not no anyone who votes for the Commies, and I would hope to never have to be faced with them vs. the Liberals. It would all depend on the candidates, and there would always be that possibility I would vote for the over the Liberals.

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Although there is a small chance I might vote Conservative.

Is that if Ottawa South is very close and the oppertunity to claim bragging rights for beating a McGuinty is too good to miss?

I actually like Dalton, but I don't really like David McGuinty. The Conservative candidate is actually respectable, he was the whistleblower on the whole Gomery Inquirt mess. I don't know his positions on the issues though, so unless he is a moderate, I won't be voting for him.

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Since elections now seem all but certain, and the only thing not known now is if they'll be on January 16 or 23.

Parties:
Conservative - main rightist party (duh). Created in 2003 with the merger of a bunch of right wing parties that I don't know much about.

The Canadian Alliance (formerly the Reform Party) and the Progressive Conservatives. The Canadian Alliance was strong in the west, and makes up a lot of the new party, and the PC was more moderate and was only strong in the Atlantic (although was historically Canada's 2nd biggest party). A lot of PCers left the new Conservative Party. Many joined the Liberals.

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Nothing wrong with the relgious left, BRTD. It's the same religious left that supports same sex marriage.

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Actually, more like the Republicans

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Ugh, Conservatives in all likelyhood, though I feel blessed that I'll never have to choose.

I feel blessed you will never have to choose to. People like you are what's wrong with America, and we don't need your types in Canada.

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Conservative; It's time to change and i'd rather not have a minority government; otherwise it'd be NDP.

Why on earth? Minority governments are the best!

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If the forum were the Canadian electorate the following would be the make up of the house:

Liberal: 52
Conservative: 131
NDP: 67
BQ: 46
Other: 12

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Conservative; It's time to change and i'd rather not have a minority government; otherwise it'd be NDP.

Why on earth? Minority governments are the best!

Well, if you have an unelected senate, then it would probably be a good idea...but Canada needs stability, and under a government other then the Liberals. One term of Harper is survivable, and necessary. There needs to be a clear, reasonably strong government after the election, and it shouldn't include the liberals.

Boo!!

Your lack of left-wing-edness vexes me

Whats so bad about the Liberals and the NDP? Harper is Pat Buchanan with a better campaign manager.

my view is that one term of conservative government is well worth it if it makes the left wingers and centrists realise they aren't born for power and have to actually serve the electorate.

Ick! NO CONSEVATIVE MAJORITY!

I can handle a minority, but a majority scares me. I can't live under 4-5 years of PM Harper. That's like living under Bush or John Howard... or Mike Harris. OH GOD!! Not Mike Harris

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Liberals

That's odd, since I'm under the impression the Tories and their Canadian counterparts were pretty much the same.

The Progressive Conservatives and the UK Conservative Party were pretty much the same. The current Canadian Conservative Party is basically an extension of the Alliance.

I'd agree with that. And the alliance is an extension of the old Reform Party.

One question...whatever happened to the Social Credit Party, and its supporters?

It died out in the early 80's. Most are now in the Conservatives and were in the Reform and Canadian Alliance Parties. The Quebec credititistes were nationalists I think. The provincial SoCreds are now in the BC Liberal Party, but both BC and Alberta still have minor SoCred parties.

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Do you see now just how conservative Harper and his crew are Hugh? They are just like Bush in 2000, seemingly moderate but actually paleo-cons in disguise.

Wait wait wait... I thought Bush was a neo-con... now we're paleo-cons?  Maybe y'all should get your ideological epithets straight.

Good point.

Paleocons are people like Buchannan while neo cons are like most of the Bush administration (Rumsfeld, Ashcroft)

Bush is more of a social conservative, while Harper is more of a moderate Conservative (In U.S. terms), even under his disguise he's not as far as Bush.

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WMS, you'd probably vote Liberal

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WMS, you'd probably vote Liberal

Nah, you should see what he thinks about Tammany Hall types

He'd most likely be stuck with being a swing voter from hell. Again

How about the BQ then?

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WMS, you'd probably vote Liberal

Nah, you should see what he thinks about Tammany Hall types

He'd most likely be stuck with being a swing voter from hell. Again

How about the BQ then?

He has a tendency to dislike seperatists, well, except Somaliland.

Actually I could see him voting NDP in the prairies. In the urban areas, well he wouldn't be too happy...

Yeah. NDP for a major party preference. Maybe the Progressive Canadians if he wanted to go for a minor party.

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Casey, there much more embarassing pictures of Layton than that. Wheres the pic of him at the gay pride parade?

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Casey, there much more embarassing pictures of Layton than that. Wheres the pic of him at the gay pride parade?

I'll "dig it up" tomorrow. But the caption is what I found funny in that pic.

Hahaha. What was Layton doing in Calgary anyways? You can't get any more Conservative for a city anyways.

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I. Am. Shocked.

Did you run into an electric fence, then?

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For a given value of "urban", then. Hmm, the Prairie NDP doesn't sound bad at all. And what did the B.C. NDP do instead - cut governing costs?

Lots of scandals.

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Ah, the htmldon party! Got it. Might be worth adding to my swing list.

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Wheat is OK. Absurdly volatile electorates are fun.

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I do my best to avoid them, that is true.

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I'll do that.
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Hedy Fry = far left loony liberal
Svend Robinson = far left slightly less lonny New Democrat

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For a given value of "urban", then. Hmm, the Prairie NDP doesn't sound bad at all. And what did the B.C. NDP do instead - cut governing costs?

Lots of scandals.

Ahh, that's never good. What were the scandals involving, anyway?

Something to do with a casino and a deck. Gabu or Dean might know

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Hedy Fry = far left loony liberal
Svend Robinson = far left slightly less lonny New Democrat


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*projectile-vomits* Not my type of place at all, then...
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Not to mention the ridings high homosexual population. Unfortunately, statistics for such a variabe are hard to find, but it would make an interesting map

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You mean Bingogate? Or the mess over the Skeena pulp mill? Or the mess over the Ferries? Or... [etc etc repeat ad nasuem...]

IIRC they ran the provinces finances into the ground as well. Not the worst government B.C has ever had. The SoCreds were even worse...

The BC Liberals aren't doing so well either. Unfortunately they were re-elected

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The CBC has a Vote by issue quiz thingy at http://www.votebyissue.org/cbc/.  Thio the quiz text doesn't mention it, you can choose to remain undecided on an issue if you want and it will be taken into account at the end.  You can choose to leave one or more of the four main parties out if you want to simplify things, and unless you're favorable to the idea of an independent Quebec, go ahead and drop the BQ from the running and save some time

I really hate those questions. Not only are they confusing, many of them are like "do you agree with such and such providing that such and such" when I agree with the first part and disagree with the second.

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Here's what I got anyways:

(I agreed with)

      Jack Layton
on 11 issues   Gun Control, Farming, Employment Insurance, Taxes, Parliamentary Reform, Child Care, Economic Growth, Relations with the provinces, Healthcare Funding, Defence Spending, National Security

      Stephen Harper
on 5 issues   Farming, Foreign Aid, Employment Insurance, Parliamentary Reform, National Security

      Paul Martin
on 6 issues   Farming, Employment Insurance, Parliamentary Reform, Child Care, Relations with the provinces, Healthcare Funding