Biden approval ratings thread, 1.0

[pbrower2a]

Trump Toupee and many Rs have been claiming this on the forum, many people will go from ICUs back to work when they get vaccinated and Trump didn't even order enough vaccines due to Trump letting his guard down on Covid and preparing for his relection.

Biden once we all get vaccinated will have 55% approvals.

Trump never had a 50% approval rating

Yes... vaccines are prevention and not treatment. The ICU is often a portal to the morgue. We are not all going to get the vaccine any earlier than we merit based upon our work, comorbidities, and exposure to the disease. (In the latter, that means that if you are taking care of someone with the virus you get a dose).

This vaccine is rushed, and I would rather wait a couple of months until it is well established as safe and effective. In the meantime I expect to take appropriate precautions. I will be tempted to use the words "negligent homicide" with the name of Donald Trump except if such is precluded by circumstances (such as if I go back to substitute school teaching).   

[GeorgiaModerate]

The Economist/YouGov tracker, Jan. 3-5, 1500 adults including 1278 RV (normally weekly, but skipped last week due to the holidays)

I'll be real interested to see this poll next week.

Biden (approval of transition):

Adults:

Approve 53 (+3)
Disapprove 31 (-4)

Strongly approve 33 (+1)
Strongly disapprove 22 (nc)

RV:

Approve 57 (+4)
Disapprove 34 (-3)

Strongly approve 40 (+3)
Strongly disapprove 25 (-1)


Trump (approval of transition):

Adults:

Approve 32 (-2)
Disapprove 60 (+5)

Strongly approve 20 (+1)
Strongly disapprove 46 (+3)

RV:

Approve 33 (-2)
Disapprove 62 (+4)

Strongly approve 21 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 50 (+3)


Trump (overall job approval):

Adults:

Approve 42 (+1)
Disapprove 52 (+1)

Strongly approve 27 (nc)
Strongly disapprove 42 (+2)

RV:

Approve 43 (nc)
Disapprove 55 (+3)

Strongly approve 29 (-1)
Strongly disapprove 46 (+3)

[GeorgiaModerate]

Do you all think that this coup attempt or whatever else you want to call it will negatively or positively impact Biden's approval ratings?

Help Biden, tank Trump.

[pbrower2a]

Joe Biden did his job, and Trump muffed his.

Approvals for Pence, Romney, and McConnell soar.

[GeorgiaModerate]

Ipsos Core Political Data, Jan. 4-5, 1324 adults including 1133 RV (normally weekly but skipped last week)

Biden:

Adults:

Approve 55 (+2)
Disapprove 37 (nc)

Strongly approve 27 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 25 (+1)

RV:

Approve 57 (+2)
Disapprove 38 (nc)

Strongly approve 30 (-2)
Strongly disapprove 27 (+1)


Trump:

Adults:

Approve 38 (-2)
Disapprove 57 (+2)

Strongly approve 21 (-3)
Strongly disapprove 44 (+1)

RV:

Approve 40 (nc)
Disapprove 58 (+1)

Strongly approve 23 (-3)
Strongly disapprove 45 (nc)

[Progressive Pessimist]

Joe Biden did his job, and Trump muffed his.

Approvals for Pence, Romney, and McConnell soar.

McConnell and Pence don't deserve that, even if it is clear now that as villainous as they are, they still can't quite compete with Trump. Though they also did help contribute to enabling Trump. No Republican should be absolved of anything.

[GeorgiaModerate]

NPR/Marist, Jan. 7, 875 adults including 831 RV (1-month change)

Biden:

Adults:

Approve 48
Disapprove 37

RV:

Approve 48
Disapprove 36

(Above not broken down into strongly/somewhat)


Trump:

Adults:

Approve 38 (-5)
Disapprove 58 (+6)

Strongly approve 26 (-4)
Strongly disapprove 51 (+10)

The net of -20 is Trump's worst ever in this poll, which is rated A+ by 538.

RV:

Approve 39
Disapprove 58

Strongly approve 26
Strongly disapprove 52

[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

^ 21% of Republicans disapprove of Trump's job performance according to that poll; 15% "strongly disapprove."

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

You all might want to have a look at this...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

[GeorgiaModerate]

You all might want to have a look at this...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

I posted details about the Quinnipiac poll in the general chaos thread; here they are again:

Quinnipiac (monthly), Jan. 7-10, 1239 RV

Approve 33 (-11)
Disapprove 60 (+9)

Strongly approve 26 (-10)
Strongly disapprove 54 (+7)

This is almost the worst showing ever for Trump in this poll; he was at 33/61 in July 2017.

The net change of 20 points since last month is extraordinary.  I don't recall ever seeing a shift that large.

60% think Trump is undermining democracy; 34% think he is protecting it.

53% think Trump should resign; 43% don't.

52% think Trump should be removed; 45% don't.

45% think Trump is mentally stable; 48% don't.

[leonardothered]

ffs people are complete failures in terms of character judgment. It's STILL not the worst it's ever been lol? The number of bad blackjack players doubling down on this guy at the table is appalling.

[BudgieForce]

Seems like we're getting a YouGov poll tomorrow with Trump's numbers plummeting.

https://twitter.com/doug_rivers/status/1348795246960726016

[Obama-Biden Democrat]

You all might want to have a look at this...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

I posted details about the Quinnipiac poll in the general chaos thread; here they are again:

Quinnipiac (monthly), Jan. 7-10, 1239 RV

Approve 33 (-11)
Disapprove 60 (+9)

Strongly approve 26 (-10)
Strongly disapprove 54 (+7)

This is almost the worst showing ever for Trump in this poll; he was at 33/61 in July 2017.

The net change of 20 points since last month is extraordinary.  I don't recall ever seeing a shift that large.

60% think Trump is undermining democracy; 34% think he is protecting it.

53% think Trump should resign; 43% don't.

52% think Trump should be removed; 45% don't.

45% think Trump is mentally stable; 48% don't.

34% of the country approves of the insurrection and killing cops.

[Sharpshooter]

Can we just point out that Biden's approval ratings from a historical perspective aren't actually that great?

Obama entered office with a 67% approval rating (his first one on Gallup).

Approval ratings usually have a strong correlation with midterm performance and various special elections so you'd think if Biden is 45% or less the Republicans will be solid favorites for the house and have a good shot at the senate.

[Sharpshooter]

Infact I just checked.  Ranking presidents by their approval ratings at the time of their midterms since 1990:

1998: Bill Clinton - (+5 house, 0 senate) - 65% approval rating
2002: George W Bush - (+8 house, +2 senate) - 62% approval rating
1990: George HW Bush - (-8 house, -1 senate) - 55% approval rating
1994: Bill Clinton - (-54 house, -8 senate) - 45% approval rating
2010: Barack Obama - (-63 house, -6 senate) - 45% approval rating
2014: Barack Obama - (-13 house, -9 senate) - 42% approval rating
2018: Donald Trump - (-41 house, +2 senate) - 42% approval rating
2006: George W Bush - (-31 house, -5 senate) - 37% approval rating

People are saying "no one will pay attention to Biden's approval ratings like they did for Trump", I certainly would be a bit weary if Biden's numbers are in the 40s come the Fall of 2022.

The break even point looks like around 55-60%.

[swf541]

Infact I just checked.  Ranking presidents by their approval ratings at the time of their midterms since 1990:

1998: Bill Clinton - (+5 house, 0 senate) - 65% approval rating
2002: George W Bush - (+8 house, +2 senate) - 62% approval rating
1990: George HW Bush - (-8 house, -1 senate) - 55% approval rating
1994: Bill Clinton - (-54 house, -8 senate) - 45% approval rating
2010: Barack Obama - (-63 house, -6 senate) - 45% approval rating
2014: Barack Obama - (-13 house, -9 senate) - 42% approval rating
2018: Donald Trump - (-41 house, +2 senate) - 42% approval rating
2006: George W Bush - (-31 house, -5 senate) - 37% approval rating

People are saying "no one will pay attention to Biden's approval ratings like they did for Trump", I certainly would be a bit weary if Biden's numbers are in the 40s come the Fall of 2022.

The break even point looks like around 55-60%.

I'd normally agree with this take, but too many uncertainties and its clear the political dynamics at play are unique to the current time period. Polarization seems to be at a near record high as well.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

If people don't get their stimulus checks of 600 by the end of the month, there is gonna be reprocutions, and blame, Biden and GA D's ran on 2K stimulus checks and we find out that about 35 percent of people still haven't received their stimulus checks

How can Ds run on extending Unemployment and more Stimulus checks if 35 percent haven't received their second stimulus. That's why Biden is 48-37 not 55 percent anymore as Marist polls indicate

They lied to us and said it would be mailed if we didn't receive a check by the middle of month and it's the 13 th

[Sharpshooter]

Infact I just checked.  Ranking presidents by their approval ratings at the time of their midterms since 1990:

1998: Bill Clinton - (+5 house, 0 senate) - 65% approval rating
2002: George W Bush - (+8 house, +2 senate) - 62% approval rating
1990: George HW Bush - (-8 house, -1 senate) - 55% approval rating
1994: Bill Clinton - (-54 house, -8 senate) - 45% approval rating
2010: Barack Obama - (-63 house, -6 senate) - 45% approval rating
2014: Barack Obama - (-13 house, -9 senate) - 42% approval rating
2018: Donald Trump - (-41 house, +2 senate) - 42% approval rating
2006: George W Bush - (-31 house, -5 senate) - 37% approval rating

People are saying "no one will pay attention to Biden's approval ratings like they did for Trump", I certainly would be a bit weary if Biden's numbers are in the 40s come the Fall of 2022.

The break even point looks like around 55-60%.

I'd normally agree with this take, but too many uncertainties and its clear the political dynamics at play are unique to the current time period. Polarization seems to be at a near record high as well.

Polarization was very high under Obama too.  Didn't stop him from getting 'shellacked'.

People seem to assume that democrats will maintain their ridiculously high level turnout they've had in the past 4 years during Trumps presidency and transfer it easily into Biden's presidency which I really find optimistic.

I think what will be a good indicator is are cable news ratings, namely CNN and MSNBC, fundraising etc.  If some of that drops, then it could be sign that people are tuning out now that Trump has gone.  He was the ultimate fear factor who drove opposition turnout to insane levels.

Looking at turnout in the past 3 midterms:

2010: 42%
2014: 37%
2018: 49%

If you were to ask me whether I'd put money on over/under 45%, I'd go under.

[It’s so Joever]

Infact I just checked.  Ranking presidents by their approval ratings at the time of their midterms since 1990:

1998: Bill Clinton - (+5 house, 0 senate) - 65% approval rating
2002: George W Bush - (+8 house, +2 senate) - 62% approval rating
1990: George HW Bush - (-8 house, -1 senate) - 55% approval rating
1994: Bill Clinton - (-54 house, -8 senate) - 45% approval rating
2010: Barack Obama - (-63 house, -6 senate) - 45% approval rating
2014: Barack Obama - (-13 house, -9 senate) - 42% approval rating
2018: Donald Trump - (-41 house, +2 senate) - 42% approval rating
2006: George W Bush - (-31 house, -5 senate) - 37% approval rating

People are saying "no one will pay attention to Biden's approval ratings like they did for Trump", I certainly would be a bit weary if Biden's numbers are in the 40s come the Fall of 2022.

The break even point looks like around 55-60%.

I'd normally agree with this take, but too many uncertainties and its clear the political dynamics at play are unique to the current time period. Polarization seems to be at a near record high as well.

Polarization was very high under Obama too.  Didn't stop him from getting 'shellacked'.

People seem to assume that democrats will maintain their ridiculously high level turnout they've had in the past 4 years during Trumps presidency and transfer it easily into Biden's presidency which I really find optimistic.

I think what will be a good indicator is are cable news ratings, namely CNN and MSNBC, fundraising etc.  If some of that drops, then it could be sign that people are tuning out now that Trump has gone.  He was the ultimate fear factor who drove opposition turnout to insane levels.

Looking at turnout in the past 3 midterms:

2010: 42%
2014: 37%
2018: 49%

If you were to ask me whether I'd put money on over/under 45%, I'd go under.

Eh...not really.
Things have changed and I think turnout will be higher than thought on both sides. People are now paying attention to politics, and that shift will only subside some. I expect turnout to be higher in general over these next few years.
Whether that helps Dems or the terrorists, that remains to be seen.

[wbrocks67]

Can we just point out that Biden's approval ratings from a historical perspective aren't actually that great?

Obama entered office with a 67% approval rating (his first one on Gallup).

Approval ratings usually have a strong correlation with midterm performance and various special elections so you'd think if Biden is 45% or less the Republicans will be solid favorites for the house and have a good shot at the senate.

Polling on Biden has been all over the place depending though. We got multiple polls from Fox and I think 1 or 2 other outfits that had his transition approval at 65% a few weeks ago. I mean, hell the NPR one has like nearly 20% undecided.

Also, like others have said, things are even more polarized now.

[BudgieForce]

Can we just point out that Biden's approval ratings from a historical perspective aren't actually that great?

Obama entered office with a 67% approval rating (his first one on Gallup).

Approval ratings usually have a strong correlation with midterm performance and various special elections so you'd think if Biden is 45% or less the Republicans will be solid favorites for the house and have a good shot at the senate.

Obama entered office with an abnormal amount of goodwill. The country was in the midst of the great recession/Iraq War and even republican's were resonating with Obama's message of "hope and change".

A better comparison would be Obama's predecessors. Both Clinton and Bush Jr. entered office with approval ratings in the mid to high 50s according to Gallup.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

We never got any more details on that YouGov poll

[GeorgiaModerate]

We never got any more details on that YouGov poll

Might refer to the Economist/YouGov tracker. If so it should be out tomorrow.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

We never got any more details on that YouGov poll

Might refer to the Economist/YouGov tracker. If so it should be out tomorrow.

That Doug Rivers said we would get more information on it today.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Biden approvals are at 48-37, for a reason, that stimulus checks aren't going out quickly enough and he will have to renew unemployment again in the Spring

The IRS screwed up and there will be a reckoning if voters don't get their checks by the end of the month