Is premarital sex immoral?

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Yes, it is always immoral and is not focused on enough by Evangelicals:

There is no circumstance in which it is acceptable for people to have sex outside of the confines of a Biblical marriage.  The "religious right" is right to condemn homosexual sex as wrong, but it is not strong enough about condemning all heterosexual sex between unmarried men and women- this includes everything from one-night-stands to long-term relationships that have not resulted in marriage. 

I don't want to get off topic, but I wonder if that's because the latter hits closer to home for many of us- how many evangelicals have sinned by having sex in a long-term heterosexual relationship, but before marriage?  Even the best Christians sin, and we cannot simply condemn those that are foreign to us (I don't think I regularly interact with a single non-straight person, for instance) while ignoring those that impact our communities more (I know plenty of Christians who have had pre-marital sex and presume many that I don't know about have as well).

Also, just because something is a sin and a person is a sinner does not give us permission to treat anybody with disrespect.  Every person on this Earth sins, which is why Jesus died for our sins.  We must respect sinners as people, but we also must do our best to not respect their sins.

[ON Progressive]

No (normal)

[Pyro]

Are you Amish or something?

[Kyle Rittenhouse is a Political Prisoner]

No (normal)

[Skunk]

Just because you're not having it doesn't mean it's immoral.

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No, not like Atlas has to worry about it much anyway.

[Kleine Scheiße]

Always immoral? No.

Mostly immoral? No.

Theoretically, are there contexts in which premarital sex could be considered "immoral?" Yes.

Theoretically, are there contexts in which marital sex could be considered "immoral?" Yes.

Ought we be "moral" people? Yes, and "morality" should purposefully be left vague and self-constructed.

Ought "morality" be prescribed by any central authority, be it a religious organization, political institution, or otherwise? This is the United States of America. We are individualists. Absolutely not. End of story.

[HillGoose]

No lmfao

[Esteemed Jimmy]

No (normal)

[UlmerFudd]

No lmfao

[muon2]

For centuries Christian church marriage was largely a sacrament for those with title or property. Most of the Christian population did not do more than verbally agree to be wed, often without witnesses in what we today might consider as a common-law marriage. It was only the pressures of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation that had both sides demand that a wedding be a church function to be legitimate, presumably so they would know who their own believers were.

So by the measure of Christianity, sex outside of a church-sanctioned wedding only became immoral about 1500 years after the founding of the Church. Were those millions of earlier Christians immoral? I don't think so.

[Big Abraham]

Yes, it is always immoral and is not focused on enough by Evangelicals:

Yeah, good luck winning over converts that way

[Lourdes]

No lmfao

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

[Mr. Smith]

Yes. Highly.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

[Mr. Smith]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

B*(ch please, it's all about the pluralistic oligarchy! All teh rage bruh!

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

The Taliban wishes it had as many immorality bans as my ideal Nation.

[TJ in Oregon]

For centuries Christian church marriage was largely a sacrament for those with title or property. Most of the Christian population did not do more than verbally agree to be wed, often without witnesses in what we today might consider as a common-law marriage. It was only the pressures of the Reformation and Counter-Reformation that had both sides demand that a wedding be a church function to be legitimate, presumably so they would know who their own believers were.

So by the measure of Christianity, sex outside of a church-sanctioned wedding only became immoral about 1500 years after the founding of the Church. Were those millions of earlier Christians immoral? I don't think so.

It depends on what you mean by church-sanctioned. Prior to the Council of Trent, the Church would have recognized common law marriages as legitimate. While the form of the wedding may be somewhat different than that of today, having sex in a medieval common law marriage not the same as pre-marital sex.

That, and that most Christians would only require the marriage to be valid, not necessarily in the Church. For example, if two Hindus in India get married and then have sex, they wouldn't be having pre-marital sex, presuming their marriage is valid.

[Kleine Scheiße]

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation.

I'm not sure. Same-sex unmarried couples could easily get around such penalties by posing as "roommates," and while I'm generally in favor of putting more straight people through the criminal justice system, I have a feeling this could backfire.

[HillGoose]

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

The Taliban wishes it had as many immorality bans as my ideal Nation.

damn brah that's hard as hell. not my cup of tea, but that's like, some serious ambition.

would your ideal nation also execute people for jaywalking?

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

My greatest fear in having children is that they fail to abide by the most essential law of the Lord. If they were to fall into our greater society's putrid ways, it would be better for them not to have been born at all. As such, contact with the decomposing souls around them will need to be near zero until I can make arrangements for them.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation.

I'm not sure. Same-sex unmarried couples could easily get around such penalties by posing as "roommates," and while I'm generally in favor of putting more straight people through the criminal justice system, I have a feeling this could backfire.

I have given both issues significant thought. Requiring a bedroom per occupant and heavy patrolling of American gayborhoods for signs of affection between those without licenses would near the top of my priorities. This is absolutely critical so that nobody receives an unfair advantage by creating economies of scale without committing to a life partner.

Obviously and we must remake this the foundation of America. There is no principle more important. If this is not immoral, then virtually nothing is.

I would be strongly open to instituting criminal penalties against cohabitation. This is one of the biggest reasons for my opposition to Rick Scott in the Senate race.

dude that's hilarious, the cops breaking down your door because you're sleeping with someone is real "small goverment" lmfao

I am the biggest or one of the biggest opponents of small government on Earth. Theocratic autocracy must finally reach out shores.

like the Taliban?

The Taliban wishes it had as many immorality bans as my ideal Nation.

damn brah that's hard as hell. not my cup of tea, but that's like, some serious ambition.

would your ideal nation also execute people for jaywalking?

While I do believe pedestrians are some of the most unfairly privileged people in America, I have no issue with jaywalkers. Let the automobilists decide how to handle it.

[Xing]

I've never understood how/why sex is considered immoral.