UDL Convention, December '10 (Official business complete.)

[Antonio the Sixth]

If there is a primary organized for the Senatorial elections, as Polnut suggested, I'll be seeking nomination.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Since we're already campaigning

I offer myself for a member of the council because:

1. My dedication to the game has already been proved. I'm a person who likes to do stuff. Do a lot of stuff
2. I have an experience in developing new project, just to mention Midwest Universal Althing, and I'm pretty sure my energy and ideas can be useful right here and right now
3. In addition to experience mentioned, I have an experience in recruitment, including inviting some people to the UDL in last two days

Reassuming, I want to do stuff for the UDL, give me a chance *hughughug*

Endorsed.

For others, there are too much candidacies for me to endorse you all, so I'll have a hard time when I'll have to actually vote.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Looks good. I guess I'll endorse you too.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Aye

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd be fine with either red or fuchsia, but please not orange, gold or yellow.

Also, I'm endorsing Hashemite for the Council (3 done, 2 left ! ).

[Antonio the Sixth]

orange plz

Red would make us seem like an exclusively left-wing party, which we're not/shouldn't be

Well, I have to disagree there. As our name states, we are a left-wing party, a party whose goal is to gather all the different shades of the Atlasian left : going from liberal centrists like you to democratic socialists like Kalwejt. What we are not, however, is an un-ideological big tent party as was the DA. At least, that wasn't the idea I had when I joined the UDL. Let's be open, but let's be consistent.

About party colors, I think fuchsia could be a nice compromise between partisans of red and partisans of "centrist" color. This is the color used by the mainstream European center-left parties and would also fit with us quite well.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Rank the following choices for official party color from 1 to 7:

[1] Red       
[5] Orange    
[6] Gold      
[4] Salmon    
[2] Fuchsia   
[3] Purple    
[7] Blue      

Vote yes or no on the following question:

Shall the party bylaws be amended to replace "five" in Article 6 with "seven"?

[  ] Yes
[X] No

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is it reasonable to call for an end to voting now that I believe almost everyone has voted?

We got 21 votes of 27. That's rather good but seeing the closeness of the vote I'd recommend to wait until a clearer majority emerges (maybe we could PM the 6 remaining voters).

[Antonio the Sixth]

Can I put this to votes ?

Motion

1. The UDL shall run two candidates for December 2010 Senate elections.
2. These two candidates shall be determined through Instant Runoff Voting during a Party Primary.
3. Any candidate not taking part to the primary shall not receive any endorsement from the UDL. Any candidate taking part to the primary shall drop out of the race if he isn't among the two frontrunners.
4. The UDL Primary shall be held 24 hours after the passage of this motion. It shall last for 48 hours.

Feel free to propose any modification.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Ok then.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Motion

1. The UDL shall run two candidates for December 2010 Senate elections.
2. These two candidates shall be determined through Instant Runoff Voting during a Party Primary.
3. Any candidate not taking part to the primary shall not receive any endorsement from the UDL. Any candidate taking part to the primary shall drop out of the race if they aren't among the two frontrunners.
4. The UDL Primary shall be held immediately after the passage of this motion. It shall last for 48 hours.


- My proposed changes in bold, if we're going to do this, way as well do it now.

That's right, I'm fine with this version.

I have to reject Teddy's amendment because 3 is still too much for now. For future elections, things could be different.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Hey, just a random thought : where is it written that a party must have one colore and only one ? There seems to be a major division between our members, so I think the best thing would merely be to adopt two official colors : Red and Orange. I don't think 49% of the party deserves to be frustrated just because 51% has a different opinion, so let's make everybody happy.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Executive Council of the Union of the Democratic Left (5 seats open)

Rank the following candidates:

[  ] Sewer
[5] HappyWarrior
[1] Kalwejt
[6] Belgiansocialist
[4] Polnut
[2] Hashemite
[3] Al
[  ] Write-in: __________
[  ] None of the above
President of the Union of the Democratic Left

Rank the following candidates:

[  ] Dr. Cynic
[X] Purple State
[  ] Write-in: __________
[  ] None of the above

[Antonio the Sixth]

It should be noted that Al is a joke candidate.

Al is Al.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You think you could get 8 Senate seats??

Impossible in Atlasia. Even JCP at larget extend wouldn't accomplish that.

Yeah. 4 is basically the maximum for a party of our size (and it would imply being very lucky).

[Antonio the Sixth]

1. Do you approve of the UDL using the following symbol as it's official logo?



[  ] Yes
[  ] No

2. Do you approve of the UDL using the color Orange-Red as it's official color?

[X] Yes
[ ] No


I abstain on the logo vote. Nothing against the logo itself, but I think it's worth a debate as some people suggested. The symbol in my banner is the logo of the Norwegian Labour Party, FYI. As for the design, you can thank Hashemite.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Then I guess we'll have to whip Hashemite into making us a new logo.

Indeed.

[Antonio the Sixth]

There must be a flower. Whatever kind, stylized or not, with or without the assorted fist, but we need one.

[Antonio the Sixth]

What about combining the rose and the little guy ? Dunno, putting the rose on the foreground and the guy on the backgroung or the contrary...

[Antonio the Sixth]

#3, by far.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Also, needless to say, thanks to Hashemite for his awesome logos.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If I may suggest, why not making the rose in our logo (since we're going to pick the #3) red instead of white ? A bit of red in this sea of orange won't harm anybody.

[Antonio the Sixth]

If I may suggest, why not making the rose in our logo (since we're going to pick the #3) red instead of white ? A bit of red in this sea of orange won't harm anybody.

It would hurt everyone's eyes.

Not really, Hash's orange is light enough.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Elections in Atlasia are personality contests, so running more popular personalities is a good bet. None of this is meant in a negative way, but I mean, was anyone really expecting many cross-over votes from the RPP for Antonio? Did anyone not know that Ben and Winston are kinda, sorta controversial figures in the game? And Sewer...

Well, we probably also need someone to represent the hardcore of the party : as we can see, we can afford that. Though, if we want to elect a second senator, we probably indeed need some crossover votes. But anyways, we leed to run less candidates : 4 was just ridiculous.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I think next time we are better organized. For the next At-Large Elections we should have not more than 3 Candidates.

I don't understand this rationale.  How would any more of our candidates have been elected if we had run fewer candidates?

First of all, it would make us appear a little more credible. And more important, at the beginning of the election I was seriously worried that Sewer or Winston could actually beat me, then fail to be elected, thus preventing any UDLer from winning.