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Question: Is Clinton right to blame the democrats for Tom Daschles loss of South Dakota?
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Blue Rectangle
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« on: July 18, 2005, 12:20:13 PM »

The Democrats gave Senator Daschle the top Senate post which was certainly a plus and a minus for his political career.

Exactly.

Bayh, Lincoln and Landrieu didn't have to support the most liberal members of their party.  Daschle, as leader, had to.

In 2002, Thune lost even though Bush's approval was through the roof.  Thune won in 2004 with Bush's <50% approval.  Daschle was the difference that helped Thune.

If I were Harry Reid, I'd be very careful about how supportive I am of the left wing of the party.  (IMO, he's been pretty smart so far.)
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Blue Rectangle
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« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2005, 12:29:07 PM »

daschle lost because he was one big miserable failure.  he was a f'ing failure as senator, so why did the democrats elect him leader?  beats me.

In hopes that giving him power would translate into support at home.  Unfortunately for Daschle, the power gained was not enough to counter the liabilities I mentioned above.
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« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2005, 12:30:01 PM »

daschle lost because he was one big miserable failure.  he was a f'ing failure as senator, so why did the democrats elect him leader?  beats me.



Why did the Republicans refuse to back a bill for seven years that reduced abortions?

Look at abortion rates in Republicans states versus rates in Democratic states.  The Democrats have zero authority on this issue.
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Blue Rectangle
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« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2005, 02:04:14 PM »

Look at abortion rates in Republicans states versus rates in Democratic states.  The Democrats have zero authority on this issue.

Nice lie.

Teen pregancies and abortion rates are highest in the red states, and especially the south.

Bold states voted Kerry in 2004

Rank   State   Abortions per thousand live births
1    District of Columbia    706
2    New York 500   
3    Delaware    453
4    Rhode Island    429   
5    Florida    416   
6    Massachusetts    324   
7    Nevada    322   
7    Washington    322   
9    Kansas    316   
10    Oregon    315   
11    Connecticut    311   
12    New Jersey    290
13    North Carolina    257   
13    Pennsylvania    257   
15    Illinois    253   
16    Georgia    249   
16    Virginia    249   
18    Ohio    247   
19    Vermont    239   
20    Hawaii    234   
21    Tennessee    222   
22    Alabama    221   
23    Minnesota    220   
24    Montana    214   
25    Michigan    212   
25    Texas    212   
27    New Mexico    190   
28    Maryland    184
29    Maine    183   
30    Louisiana    167   
31    Arkansas    160   
31    Nebraska    160   
33    North Dakota    159   
34    Wisconsin    158
35    Iowa    152
36    Oklahoma    140   
37    Indiana    137   
38    South Carolina    126   
39    West Virginia    114   
40    Missouri    103   
41    Arizona    97   
42    South Dakota    85   
43    Mississippi    84   
44    Utah    75   
45    Colorado    69   
45    Kentucky    69   
47    Idaho    36

From 2001, no data from CA, AK, NH and WY.

Next time you call me a liar, please have facts to back it up.
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Blue Rectangle
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« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2005, 02:27:58 PM »

Democrats have zero authority because abortion rates are higher in Democratic states (as if entire states are Democratic, as opposed to localities)?  Why?

The states with the highest rates of abortion are those that have had the most pro-choice-friendly abortion policies.  In an attempt to appease moderates on the aboriton issue, Democrats who support such liberal pro-choice policies claim that they wish to reduce the number of abortions.  For example, Hillary recently and Kerry during the campaign made this claim.  Is it only coincidence that their home states, which have abortion policies near to their own, also have very high abortion rates?  What evidence is there that the Democrats' abortion reduction policies (whatever they might be) would actually work?
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