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BaldEagle1991
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« on: November 08, 2020, 11:45:01 PM »

Any data on how Biden and Trump did well in military towns/cities?

I'm kind of wondering if the "The dead soldiers are losers and suckers" story might have hurt Trump in these areas?
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« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2020, 11:52:17 PM »

There appear to have been significant swings towards Dems in most counties/cities heavily dominated by a military presence, with Biden winning some outright such as Virginia Beach.

Moreover, the military vote coming in from overseas actually seems to have favored Biden in some/most cases (though I’m not sure how much of that is mixed in with other overseas ballots and what the ratio is so hard to say for sure).

In any case, pretty clear that at the very least Trump took a massive hit with the military, and may have even lost their vote outright. If so, pretty sure he’d be the first Republican in ages to do so.

I'm guessing that Atlantic bombshell story pretty much hurt him among this demographic. I know people who are in the military and had served, my anecdotal evidence from them is they weren't happy with that. I'm guessing that was a huge sentiment among the military crowd.
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« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2020, 08:15:04 AM »

It wasn't just Virginia Beach that swung D.

Escambia, FL: 5 points left
El Paso, CO: 11 points left
Cumberland, NC: At least 1 point left, with a significant amount of outstanding vote
Bell, TX: 6 points left
St. Clair, IL: 3 points left
Montgomery, OH: 3 points left with absentees uncounted
San Diego, CA: 3 points left

All of these are noticeable, but Colorado Springs really stands out. I do wonder why Colorado trended so hard to the left this year.

Curious into Colorado Springs...it might be just Colorado in general swinging to Biden?

Bell County TX might have swung to Biden in part into how Trump may have neglected the recent murders there perhaps?
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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2020, 02:42:27 PM »

The huge swing in El Paso, CO is a combination of military and also slow-realigning Colorado Springs.

Don’t forget that’s where the Olympians train.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2020, 12:25:32 AM »

The huge swing in El Paso, CO is a combination of military and also slow-realigning Colorado Springs.

Don’t forget that’s where the Olympians train.

How does that affect anything?

That’s a huge factor in CO Springs a bit.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2020, 12:27:02 AM »

It wasn't just Virginia Beach that swung D.

Escambia, FL: 5 points left
El Paso, CO: 11 points left
Cumberland, NC: At least 1 point left, with a significant amount of outstanding vote
Bell, TX: 6 points left
St. Clair, IL: 3 points left
Montgomery, OH: 3 points left with absentees uncounted
San Diego, CA: 3 points left

All of these are noticeable, but Colorado Springs really stands out. I do wonder why Colorado trended so hard to the left this year.

Regarding Colorado, a couple of thoughts come to mind:

1. Continuing migration of Californians to Colorado.

2. This might be far-fetched, but what about legal marijuana acting as an attractor/sorter for migration?  Young and more liberal people looking to relocate might consider it as a plus, while more conservative people might be turned off by it.  Certainly not something I'd expect to be decisive, but it could be a small factor.

I'd be interested to hear what some of our Colorado folks think about this.

EDIT: I asked a professional colleague in Colorado (Loveland) why he thought the state swung so much to the left.  He answered with one word: marijuana.

Yeah weed will keep Colorado blue like Evangelicals will keep Alabama red.
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