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« on: May 30, 2020, 06:51:13 PM »

If possible, could I get Former Representative Ron Paul of Texas running for the GOP Nomination?
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2020, 07:20:32 PM »

Actually, can I change my pick to an Independent Candidacy of Businessman Donald J. Trump?
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2020, 09:16:15 PM »

Donald J. Trump Announcement Speech

January 17th, 2007

Trump Tower, Manhattan, New York City, New York

"Wow. A lot of people showed up here today. A whole lot of people came here to hear an announcement. It's so amazing to see each and every one of you coming out here to hear an announcement from me. It's very humbling, especially to someone like me and I'm honored to see the face of every person here. I can say one thing, there has been no crowd quite like this and there likely won't be one ever again. But, I have to say my announcement before I get far too off track.

Our country is in serious, serious trouble. We don't win anymore. We haven't had a real victory since the 1990s. When was the last time we got the upper hand over China or say Canada in a trade deal? It doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't happen, but I beat them all the time, all the time. When was our last victory over Japan? Don't get me wrong, beautiful country and amazing, absolutely wonderful people, but we don't win against them anymore. We import their cars by the millions while our companies cannot open up in their markets.

When do we best Mexico at the border? We have the laxest border security in the world. The globe, it's laughing at us because of how pathetically weak our border restrictions are. and now, we are losing to Mexico economically despite what President Gore or several others might say. They are not our friend, Believe me. The United States is now the trash bin for every problem the world has. If a nation finds a problem, they toss it towards us and expects us to deal with both the problem and the aftermath of it while they go off Scott free. That can't happen any longer, that isn't what America should be seen as.

It is time for some major change in this country as we stand on the precipice. As we slowly reach our limits at the border, I hear border patrols saying that while there are good people, there are also bad people too. These bad people look to abuse our current border situation at the detriment of American citizens everywhere. This isn't just coming from Mexico either. It's coming from all across South and Latin America and from other parts of the world that are far less fortunate than us. We used to be able to handle this, but we don't know how anymore. Our political leaders are completely and utterly incompetent and we have no idea how to handle a situation like this one.

And then we look at the Middle East, where we see dictators such as Saddam Hussein of Iraq or Muammar Gaddafi of Libya doing horrible things to their people. What they do, it doesn't make these men human, they are animals, monsters, rabid dogs who must be taught that America will not let transgressions against human rights be left unchecked. However, the Gore administration has all but ignored the issue for other, in my opinion, less important things. That is just my opinion. I don't support invading them or the like, no, I don't want to risk any of the lives of our beautiful volunteers in the armed service unless absolutely necessary. Instead, should these dictators continue to commit human rights violations, there will be harsh consequences.

And now we go back to the United States. Here, our unemployment in the double digits, Indeed they are. Do not trust any other number. Don't believe it. The reason for such a high number is because we are losing our jobs and quickly. We're losing them to China, we're losing them to Mexico, we're losing them everywhere. They have jobs themselves but not us. As we get weaker, our enemies grow stronger and become more emboldened. As our influence wanes, the Russian Bear looms over the horizon ready to snap at us once again.

And then we have another idea, President Gore's healthcare plan that he is sending to Congress. I highly recommend that Congress does not approve of this legislation until it is either properly fixed or the American people can decide what they want in it by voting for the President in November.

It's clear this country needs somebody, not a politician, as they have failed us so many times in the past before. If another politician is elected, the same thing as the last 16 years will be done. Neither party is different and both are ruled by the political elite who think they're better than you. There are some people from both parties that I am personal friends with and some of them are considering running for President and to each and every one of them, I wish them the best of luck. However, they aren't talking about what I'm talking about, folks. No they aren't. They don't tell it like it is. I do, however.

And so, with all this in mind and with the knowledge that I have the support of all of you behind me, I am officially running for President of the United States of America and I pledge to Make America Great Again, not as a Republican, or a Democrat, of which both have failed us many times, but instead as an Independent, for the sake of the American People!
"

[Loud cheering is heard along with people chanting Trump over and over. This continues for two minutes before Trump signals for it all to quiet down]

"However, I think we all know this road will be long and rather difficult and I have decided that, in order to be honest with each and every person in the United States, I will announce my running mate right from the start of the campaign. He is a proud man and has served this country for over twenty years before announcing his retirement from the military a few months ago when I first contacted him and discussed a potential presidential campaign. He's been completely on board ever since I told him and has become a close friend of mine. Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce to you the great retired Lieutenant General, Micheal T. Flynn."

Flynn takes the stage from Trump while shaking his hand as the Audience cheers and applauds them. Trump and his family stands beside him as he begins to speak

"Indeed, what you just heard was correct. I, Micheal T. Flynn of Rhode Island, am now the official running mate to Mr. Donald J. Trump. On practically everything, Mr. Trump has been consistent and he's been saying the right thing over and over again. The Gore and Clinton administrations have been too weak on too many fronts and so was the Bush administration and so now, we must focus on healing the damage done. Both the Republican and Democratic Parties have failed and while I doubt Perot could've done much better with a congress opposed to him at every turn, he was correct in his predictions, especially with a Giant Sucking Sound going south in '92. I admit, I myself am a registered Democrat and voted for the Democrat for several years before recently, but this shows that Mr. Trump doesn't care about political backgrounds or old party affiliation, he cares about getting the job done. As President, he'll work to unite both parties together and bring a common sense of unity to the nation. Together, when elected, Mr. Trump and I will Make America Great Again!"


Businessman Donald John Trump Sr. (I-NY)/Retired Lieutenant General Micheal Thomas Flynn (I-RI)
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN


Following Mr. Trump's announcement speech, the Trump/Flynn ticket set up a campaign by opening offices and headquarters in New York, California, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Media Mogul begins to recruit a massive volunteer force with all the cash he has on hand at the time while he also spends time at several fundraisers to raise his war chest in the case its needed. He knows that his messages will resonate the best in the rust belt and the South and decides that, instead of elsewhere, those two regions and California and New York is where he'll spend most of his campaign going for. With over a year until the first Presidential Debate arrives in September or October of 2008, Trump hopes to reach at least 15% in national polling at that point in time to arrive on the debate stage. However, his main campaign is using the internet to his advantage, with the creation of a Youtube Channel, Twitter Account, and several other Social Media accounts to gain a closer connection to his supporters. it is hoped the outreach will give Trump a major boost in the months to come.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2020, 09:23:04 PM »

Are the Independent Candidates allowed to the Presidential Debates for the two major parties and what endorsements are we allowed in game? Can intra-party endorsements happen or are they prohibited here?
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2020, 09:39:05 PM »

So many players within the first day but I'm the first one to post my announcement speech Tongue I can't wait to see everyone else's and respond in the classic Donald Trump fashion. To Cabbage/Aaron, if most layers have posted announcement speeches by June 1st, could we get the first polls as well as the Gameplay thread up and running?
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2020, 10:25:00 PM »

TRUMP/FLYNN TICKET ANNOUNCES FIRST CAMPAIGN ENDORSEMENT DURING RALLY IN MONTGOMERY, ALABAMA

MARCH 1ST, 2007

"Oh wow, big crowd, big crowd. You know, everywhere I go, I get gigantic crowds, the biggest and so many media reporters come up to me and say 'how do you do it, Donald?' and I tell them one simple thing. I make it exciting to be at a rally. I say things you would never hear a politician say. I speak what is on my mind. There is no filter for me, as what I say is what comes out. However, I'm not out here for me. I'm out here to make an announcement. Today, me and General Flynn are proud to announce our very first campaign endorsement. This individual is a great man and has been one of the biggest supporters of this campaign with him telling me in private that my ideas would truly make this country amazing. Ladies and gentlemen, this man has served your state for the last 12 years nobly and honorably, Senator Jeff Sessions."


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"I am honored to be here in the great city of Montgomery amongst the citizens of my great state, Many of you may be surprised with my sudden endorsement of someone not in my political party. My simple reasoning is that the current crop of candidates from my political party, the Republican Party, simply isn't good enough. Moderate Collin Powell? Liberal War Hawk John McCain? No, I refuse to support anyone and the only man who I know holds most of my belief but likely has little to no chance in the primaries is Virginia Senator George Allen. This is why I'm endorsing Mr. Trump for President. As an Independent, he'll bring the nation together unlike any other, with his running mate being a Democrat while I myself am a Republican. The Trump/Flynn ticket will truly Make America Great Again and I pledge to support them until Election Day itself!"

Despite knowing what this might do to his re-election chances in the Senate, Jeff Sessions goes to Campaign for Mr. Trump across the SOuth, mainly in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, and Tennessee in an effort to raise his popularity and win over supporters from the Democrats or the Republicans. Meanwhile, multiple reports have come out stating that most right-wing actors/comedians/radio hosts, as well as Representative Steve King and the Constitution Party itself has stated that they do hold sympathies for the Businessman but are witholding any potential endorsements until there is proof Trump has a chance of winning. The Trump/Flynn campaign responds with stating that if they wanted to, their endorsements would be greatly appreciated and that while the ticket would appreciate the support of the Constitution Party, Trump will remain an Independent but suggests that the party could actively campaign for him and withdraw from the ballot on several states to give him a better chance of winning the election should he get the endorsement of the minor party..
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2020, 10:26:59 PM »

I'll do some classic Trump tweets tomorrow once more candidates have entered the race.
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2020, 10:33:21 PM »

Donald J. Trump Announcement Speech

January 17th, 2007

Trump Tower, Manhattan, New York City, New York

"Wow. A lot of people showed up here today. A whole lot of people came here to hear an announcement. It's so amazing to see each and every one of you coming out here to hear an announcement from me. It's very humbling, especially to someone like me and I'm honored to see the face of every person here. I can say one thing, there has been no crowd quite like this and there likely won't be one ever again. But, I have to say my announcement before I get far too off track.

Our country is in serious, serious trouble. We don't win anymore. We haven't had a real victory since the 1990s. When was the last time we got the upper hand over China or say Canada in a trade deal? It doesn't happen anymore. It doesn't happen, but I beat them all the time, all the time. When was our last victory over Japan? Don't get me wrong, beautiful country and amazing, absolutely wonderful people, but we don't win against them anymore. We import their cars by the millions while our companies cannot open up in their markets.

When do we best Mexico at the border? We have the laxest border security in the world. The globe, it's laughing at us because of how pathetically weak our border restrictions are. and now, we are losing to Mexico economically despite what President Gore or several others might say. They are not our friend, Believe me. The United States is now the trash bin for every problem the world has. If a nation finds a problem, they toss it towards us and expects us to deal with both the problem and the aftermath of it while they go off Scott free. That can't happen any longer, that isn't what America should be seen as.

It is time for some major change in this country as we stand on the precipice. As we slowly reach our limits at the border, I hear border patrols saying that while there are good people, there are also bad people too. These bad people look to abuse our current border situation at the detriment of American citizens everywhere. This isn't just coming from Mexico either. It's coming from all across South and Latin America and from other parts of the world that are far less fortunate than us. We used to be able to handle this, but we don't know how anymore. Our political leaders are completely and utterly incompetent and we have no idea how to handle a situation like this one.

And then we look at the Middle East, where we see dictators such as Saddam Hussein of Iraq or Muammar Gaddafi of Libya doing horrible things to their people. What they do, it doesn't make these men human, they are animals, monsters, rabid dogs who must be taught that America will not let transgressions against human rights be left unchecked. However, the Gore administration has all but ignored the issue for other, in my opinion, less important things. That is just my opinion. I don't support invading them or the like, no, I don't want to risk any of the lives of our beautiful volunteers in the armed service unless absolutely necessary. Instead, should these dictators continue to commit human rights violations, there will be harsh consequences.

And now we go back to the United States. Here, our unemployment in the double digits, Indeed they are. Do not trust any other number. Don't believe it. The reason for such a high number is because we are losing our jobs and quickly. We're losing them to China, we're losing them to Mexico, we're losing them everywhere. They have jobs themselves but not us. As we get weaker, our enemies grow stronger and become more emboldened. As our influence wanes, the Russian Bear looms over the horizon ready to snap at us once again.

And then we have another idea, President Gore's healthcare plan that he is sending to Congress. I highly recommend that Congress does not approve of this legislation until it is either properly fixed or the American people can decide what they want in it by voting for the President in November.

It's clear this country needs somebody, not a politician, as they have failed us so many times in the past before. If another politician is elected, the same thing as the last 16 years will be done. Neither party is different and both are ruled by the political elite who think they're better than you. There are some people from both parties that I am personal friends with and some of them are considering running for President and to each and every one of them, I wish them the best of luck. However, they aren't talking about what I'm talking about, folks. No they aren't. They don't tell it like it is. I do, however.

And so, with all this in mind and with the knowledge that I have the support of all of you behind me, I am officially running for President of the United States of America and I pledge to Make America Great Again, not as a Republican, or a Democrat, of which both have failed us many times, but instead as an Independent, for the sake of the American People!
"

[Loud cheering is heard along with people chanting Trump over and over. This continues for two minutes before Trump signals for it all to quiet down]

"However, I think we all know this road will be long and rather difficult and I have decided that, in order to be honest with each and every person in the United States, I will announce my running mate right from the start of the campaign. He is a proud man and has served this country for over twenty years before announcing his retirement from the military a few months ago when I first contacted him and discussed a potential presidential campaign. He's been completely on board ever since I told him and has become a close friend of mine. Ladies and gentlemen, may I introduce to you the great retired Lieutenant General, Micheal T. Flynn."

Flynn takes the stage from Trump while shaking his hand as the Audience cheers and applauds them. Trump and his family stands beside him as he begins to speak

"Indeed, what you just heard was correct. I, Micheal T. Flynn of Rhode Island, am now the official running mate to Mr. Donald J. Trump. On practically everything, Mr. Trump has been consistent and he's been saying the right thing over and over again. The Gore and Clinton administrations have been too weak on too many fronts and so was the Bush administration and so now, we must focus on healing the damage done. Both the Republican and Democratic Parties have failed and while I doubt Perot could've done much better with a congress opposed to him at every turn, he was correct in his predictions, especially with a Giant Sucking Sound going south in '92. I admit, I myself am a registered Democrat and voted for the Democrat for several years before recently, but this shows that Mr. Trump doesn't care about political backgrounds or old party affiliation, he cares about getting the job done. As President, he'll work to unite both parties together and bring a common sense of unity to the nation. Together, when elected, Mr. Trump and I will Make America Great Again!"


Businessman Donald John Trump Sr. (I-NY)/Retired Lieutenant General Micheal Thomas Flynn (I-RI)
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN


Following Mr. Trump's announcement speech, the Trump/Flynn ticket set up a campaign by opening offices and headquarters in New York, California, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania. The Media Mogul begins to recruit a massive volunteer force with all the cash he has on hand at the time while he also spends time at several fundraisers to raise his war chest in the case its needed. He knows that his messages will resonate the best in the rust belt and the South and decides that, instead of elsewhere, those two regions and California and New York is where he'll spend most of his campaign going for. With over a year until the first Presidential Debate arrives in September or October of 2008, Trump hopes to reach at least 15% in national polling at that point in time to arrive on the debate stage. However, his main campaign is using the internet to his advantage, with the creation of a Youtube Channel, Twitter Account, and several other Social Media accounts to gain a closer connection to his supporters. it is hoped the outreach will give Trump a major boost in the months to come.

I just hate to be a total nitpicker, but are you sure you want General Flynn as your running mate? It's a rather horrible look to have an active duty general on the ticket, for any candidate, in my opinion.

I did say in the speech that he retired sometime before Trump's announcement. As the Timeline doesn't really say what happens to specific individuals or if they remain in the position they're in or not and it does say outright that Flynn is retired. If Cabbage or Aaron does have a problem with this, however, I'll change it without issue.
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2020, 12:01:09 AM »

Liberman for President Announcement[/i]

Location: Cedar Rapids, IA

Welcome everyone! I am so glad to stand in front of you on this very, very, nice day. The last eight years, have been some of the best in U.S. history, with increases in jobs, GDP, and overall happiness of the average American. Under the leadership of our great president, Al Gore, we have managed to make America a much better place. This leadership must continue in order to keep America as a welcoming place for all. We can only achieve this through working together and working side-by-side to get things done.

After much consideration, I have decided that I will be running for President of the United States, to preserve the success of this country that President Gore has worked on. However, I have thought about what party's nomination I will be seeking no party's nomination for President. Instead, I will be running as an Independent for president. I feel as if the Democratic Party has moved away from the values that I hold, and instead have moved toward more radical and progressive values. At the same time, I feel that the Republican Party is too far to the right and regressive. I am not binding to any party, and instead binding to the people's will.

This marks a continued progress for America, and in this campaign, we are running on the message of by the People and for the People. We stand united as a people, fighting for the rights of all people and working together to accomplish things that all of us can get behind. Together, we will achieve and together, we will win! God bless you all and God bless America!

I know Lieberman was an Independent OTL at this point...but there's no way a Vice President Lieberman would run as an Independent.

Yeah and Gore wouldn't endorse an independent over a Democrat even if he was his vice president.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2020, 12:05:03 AM »


Can we get a GM ruling on the plausibility of Lieberman running as an Independent in this scenario? I honestly don't think it's realistic at all, given he's Vice President.

Yeah, same. This should've cleared up because not only would Lieberman not run as an Independent, but the precedent wouldn't be there. No vp president has ever became independent when running.
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2020, 12:25:53 AM »


Can we get a GM ruling on the plausibility of Lieberman running as an Independent in this scenario? I honestly don't think it's realistic at all, given he's Vice President.

Yeah, same. This should've cleared up because not only would Lieberman not run as an Independent, but the precedent wouldn't be there. No vp president has ever became independent when running.

This

It's not really a question, Joe Liberman can't be an Independent.

Also, can we agree 'well, he did' is the weakest argument ever?
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2020, 12:44:31 AM »

Lieberman will be running as a Democrat.

Glad you understand where we're coming from. Sorry if we seemed rude, but we just had to make you realize what you were trying to do wouldn't happen realistically
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2020, 05:13:04 PM »

Have enough players posted their announcement speeches to begin the game or do we still need to wait for a few more to officially start?
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2020, 05:17:36 PM »

Have enough players posted their announcement speeches to begin the game or do we still need to wait for a few more to officially start?

Gameplay thread will be up tomorrow.

Alright.
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2020, 06:22:23 PM »

While all of you be tearing each other apart and spending too much before the General, I'll just be watching, waiting, and taking notes on every negative thing said in the primaries and weaponize them for my own use later.
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2020, 05:54:44 PM »

the Trump campaign would be interested in getting an interview as well. Also, can I get Tim Allen (Buzz Lightyear) as an endorsement?
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2020, 06:52:00 PM »

the Trump campaign would be interested in getting an interview as well. Also, can I get Tim Allen (Buzz Lightyear) as an endorsement?

You can reserve him and get him once the first polls hit.

Alright, thx.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2020, 06:03:03 PM »

Can I get an endorsement from Actor Gary Buse and Singer Ted Nugent?
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2020, 06:08:55 PM »

It's probably just me, but I honestly don't think Trump talking about putting a moratorium on all immigration is going to fly very well in this climate.

At the very least, it's easy fodder for campaign ads once we get to the general election.

Besides, it really didn't help him in 2016 IRL...

At the same time, Trump's opponent weren't able to make it stick as an attack against him and he still came out on top in the end otl, also, by the general election, if I'm still in it, I'd probably have a sizable base (10-12%, maybe 9%) who'd vote for me no matter what, really, which is the goal, to build a major third party movement to shake the system, but this time, I plan to not give up halfway through like Perot.
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« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2020, 09:57:56 AM »

Can I get the Endorsements of Retired Major General Paul E. Valley and U.S. Representative Jimmy Duncan from Tennessee? Also, would accepting the endorsement of the Constitution Party be a credit or not, as they have pre-endorsed me with the referendum?
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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2020, 10:09:26 AM »

Can I get the Endorsements of Retired Major General Paul E. Valley and U.S. Representative Jimmy Duncan from Tennessee? Also, would accepting the endorsement of the Constitution Party be a credit or not, as they have pre-endorsed me with the referendum?

You can get the endorsements, and no, the Constitution Party is not an issues of credits.

Alright, thanks for clearing that up
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« Reply #21 on: June 27, 2020, 06:41:56 PM »

Can I get the endorsements of Former Secretary of the Navy 2006 Democratic Senate Nominee, and (If he is running, but you can clarify) 2008 Democratic Senate Candidate Jim Webb of Virginia and Actor Fred Williamson, unless both have already been taken.
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« Reply #22 on: July 02, 2020, 05:33:51 PM »

anyone wanna make a guess on Trump's best states?
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« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2020, 05:47:05 PM »

Also, I just forgot, any predictions for the 2008 electoral map with a Generic R v a Generic D v Trump so far?
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« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2020, 05:08:37 PM »

Can I get the endorsements of Joe Arpaio and Rudy Giulani?
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