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Co-Chair Bagel23
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« on: January 14, 2018, 05:28:12 PM »

ok then, but why is brown already have a fifty point ead in my home state?

He has more Name recognition than the other 3. If someone like Biden or Sanders were in, the race in Florida would be a bit closer (Like Brown would be in the 40 percentile while Biden or Benie wqould be 5 points above). the beginning really depends on Name recognition but as you campaign and do great in debates, you will see your poll numbers rise and your opponent's numbers fall.

I gotta admit, Gwen Graham behind Brown by 50pts in a Florida primary is bs.
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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2018, 10:49:51 PM »

Can I have John Delaney?
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« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2018, 11:48:32 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2018, 02:44:24 PM by Bagel23 »



Hello America! It is time for my presidential run, the demoratic field as of now has just been too stale, and refuses to offer a strong fight or stance against Trump as it stands now. I know what it takes to truly win in politics and in business, and that is making others lives better, and that is not what Trump is in for. Don't let a facade fool you, he is the same KKK sympathizer and immature impulsive child. America, I am here for you. I'm no career politician, I am a businessman from scratch, and I made everything I had with compassionate people, real ethics, giving back to the community, and hard work. Trump is no true businessman or dealmaker. He would have been wealthier if he had just piled his daddy's silver spoon into some ETF's and left it be. And he has not cut any real deals since his real estate days. It is time for the people once again to decide their own fate, and let Mr. Trump and those like him wander back to the swamp that they crawled out from. Fact is folks, he refilled the swamp, and most of his picks were not even qualified. America deserves better, and that's why I am running for president. My combination of compassion, shrewd business policies, and law are what America needs now. I look forward to a healthy dialogue within the democratic party, and hope to bolster it, and provide America with more choices for its future. As for Mr. Trump, we would like to say, we are coming back. Thank you all, and God Bless America!
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 10:08:48 PM »

3rd Democratic Debate

GENERAL QUESTIONS

1. There has been talks within the Democratic Party of who should become the official poster boy and leader for it in the Senate and House. If you become the Nominee, who will you support for that post?



Thank you, thank you!

Well, I just want to start off by thanking CNN for giving all of us a great opportunity to talk with America and her families in the living room. It truly is a great honor and privilege. Truth is, I think that it is too early to really say accurately at this point in time, and that is more of a privilege for congress and the people to decide. I will support, and most importantly work with whoever that individual may be, but for now, I think it is too early and too off position to really take an accurate call on that.

2. The recent Polling shows Democrats at a major disadvantage in the General Election against President Trump. As the Nominee, how would you give Trump an effective Challenge?

The Democratic Party needs to nail Trump on the economic issues. Time after time we go after one-off "scandals" and use social hills to die on. But getting support takes more that. The current strategy has failed miserably on multiple occasions, and I will seek to drive home an economic message. Everyone can agree that wealth in this country is concentrating too strongly towards the top earners, while the rest of everyone else is just living by with a just a handful of small reliefs every now and then. This must change, and I will seek to drive this message home.

3. The situation in Venezuela is very unstable yet former Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said it was the beacon of how great Socialism is. What is your position on Venezuela?

Well, I like Bernie and he is a tough guy and had a very honorable career. However, I do disagree with him on Venezuela. While they are no real threat, they are no role-model either. We need a message that rings close to true capitalism with common sense safety nets. We are now on a path to corporate capitalism, and extreme wealth concentration, and we need to return to the capitalism that our forefathers intended. After all, today's capitalism is not your grandad's capitalism anymore. Going socialist is too extreme, but I do think that we need reform to include everybody in our working economy.

4. Next year, we are planning to drop out of the Paris Climate Agreement. If you're elected, will you stop this exit or continue it?

Definitely continue it. Just because other countries may not be holding up their ends does not mean that we get to let loose as well. America is supposed to be a role-model to the international community, and we cannot falter just because others are, that is simply not the honest and hard working American way. Negotiating, and editing is not a problem, but dropping a beautiful plan just because others may not be following it up to par, is not a solution, America is better than that. Unfortunately we have lost a lot of respect and influence around the world over the years, and I blame this on President Trump and his bombastic actions and harmful rhetoric, it simply is Anti-American.

CANDIDATE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS

To Representative Delaney: 3. Representative Delaney, in 2017 you admitted that FIFA paid Ireland off after the 2009 Henry Handball. As President, how can you be sure you won't be involved in another Scandal like this?

Well, um, this is kind of awkward, gosh, but that is not me sir. I think you got me confused with an unrelated man who shares my name. It definitely is not me that you are referring too.

I think this is the man you are referring to:

An article link as well: https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/gv74x3/john-delaney-admits-fifa-paid-ireland-off-over-the-2009-henry-handball



Closing Statement

Once again, I would like to thank CNN for hosting this debate, and for the American people hearing me out. I will continue to fight for a smart economy that works for all, real strategy, fair resource usage, opportunity, and so many additional promises that I am excited to deliver to the American people if chosen. It is time for change once again, love, not hate. A good economy for the working man does not have to come with disturbing rhetoric and questionable ethics, and I hope the American people remember that come the election days. Thank you all, and have a good night, God bless you and America!
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2018, 02:48:07 AM »

At a John Delaney camaign rally mainly focused on high tech jobs in pharmaceuticals, in Towson Maryland the day after the debate, Congressmen Jamie Raskin and John Sarbanes as well as state Attorney General Brian Frosh came out to endorse John Delaney for president.

Brian Frosh:



John is the best choice for jumpstarting our high tech economy, and fighting for the working man, his background says it all.

John Sarbanes:



I have known John for years and had the honor of serving with him in the house, and his great mentoring of me has really been enough on it's own right for me to proudly endorse my good friend and smart job creator John Delaney for president.

Jamie Raskin:



John is the right choice for moderate bipartisanship and a strong liberal backbone at the same time. We need a strong and yet kind hand back in the white house to restore order, and through his kindness and vast success, while bringing up many hard working Americans with him, in the political and business worlds, John Delaney has proven himself as the fittest choice for the presidency. John, keep up the great work, and let's all fight to win this thing!

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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2018, 08:54:37 PM »

GENERAL QUESTIONS


1. There has been talks within the Democratic Party of who should become the official poster boy and leader for it in the Senate and House. If you become the Nominee, who will you support for that post?

- I agree with Congressmen Delaney on the fact that it is too early to tell really. We have a election to go through and energy and momentum is on our side. Look, if i become i nominee i will focus first on the American people. I will make it clear that i will only support such a "poster boy", if that poster boy has the good of all American's in mind. Not just the few, not just the wealthy, not just people on the coast, and not just people in the rest. The Democratic Party should and will support all of these interests under my candidacy, and hopefully presidency. I go back to a quote by Barack Obama in his 2004 speech to the DNC. You all know it, "Not just a Conservative America, or a Liberal America, but the United States of America" he said. That's what i want in my candidacy


2. The recent Polling shows Democrats at a major disadvantage in the General Election against President Trump. As the Nominee, how would you give Trump an effective Challenge?

- I will give him a effective challenge by offering real change and offering real opportunity. You know i get asked all the time, "Sherrod, how is such a liberal like yourself elected in a republican stronghold like Ohio". Ohio... a republican stronghold. (laughs) How low we must have gone. You know why Franklin Roosevelt won election 4 times, sweeping Ohio in all of them. It's because he offered the poor farmers and poor urban workers a change to failed republican policy's. It's not different from today. I will go to these same folk and tell them, "How has Trump's talk cuts for the Rich helped you?". The answer to that is... it hasn't. Trump will fear my candidacy because i offer real progressive change, not old strategy's we see from people on this change and in our party leadership. 

3. The situation in Venezuela is very unstable yet former Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said it was the beacon of how great Socialism is. What is your position on Venezuela?

- I have to disagree with Sander's hear of course. Venezuela is of course is a failed state but the notion that it is a example of socialism really gets to me. When 60-80% of the economy is privately owned, that is not socialism, that is totalitarianism and elitism. The chaos we see in the country is only due to these policy's. In fact calling it such is a disservice to the millions that died from real socialism and communism in the Old Soviet Union. But back to your question, i will make sure the United States will not intervene but we will keep a watchful eye. If a humanitarian crisis occurs, its a different story but i don't want this to turn to another Iraq which republicans are already begging for.

4. Next year, we are planning to drop out of the Paris Climate Agreement. If you're elected, will you stop this exit or continue it?

- You know i remembered a Republican Party that cared for environmentalism. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, Global Warming is occurring and caring for the environment is not a "liberal" position. The Paris Climate Agreement is not a "liberal" pact and shouldn't be. The Earth is not a partisan issue and i will rejoin the agreement if i'm elected.

CANDIDATE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS


To Senator Brown: 1. Senator, you recently called yourself a somewhat Bernie-ite. Can to explain?

- Sure. It means i support people first policy's. I support policy's that help people before Big Business. Senator Sanders supports this too and thus i guess i'm a "Bernite". I support position's that should be universal. Medicare for all of our citizens, ending oversea's wars, helping our poor and our sick... You may say this is Socialism but when every other modern country has these provisions, i call it "common sense".



You know, I'd just like to respond to Senator Brown claiming that President Franklin Roosevelt handily won Ohio four times. That is simply false. President Roosevelt only won Ohio three times, and one of those three times was a plurality win. He then lost it to Governor Dewey in 1944. I would highly recommend that you brush up on your state's history before you make false claims sir.
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Co-Chair Bagel23
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« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 12:43:43 AM »

GENERAL QUESTIONS


1. There has been talks within the Democratic Party of who should become the official poster boy and leader for it in the Senate and House. If you become the Nominee, who will you support for that post?

- I agree with Congressmen Delaney on the fact that it is too early to tell really. We have a election to go through and energy and momentum is on our side. Look, if i become i nominee i will focus first on the American people. I will make it clear that i will only support such a "poster boy", if that poster boy has the good of all American's in mind. Not just the few, not just the wealthy, not just people on the coast, and not just people in the rest. The Democratic Party should and will support all of these interests under my candidacy, and hopefully presidency. I go back to a quote by Barack Obama in his 2004 speech to the DNC. You all know it, "Not just a Conservative America, or a Liberal America, but the United States of America" he said. That's what i want in my candidacy


2. The recent Polling shows Democrats at a major disadvantage in the General Election against President Trump. As the Nominee, how would you give Trump an effective Challenge?

- I will give him a effective challenge by offering real change and offering real opportunity. You know i get asked all the time, "Sherrod, how is such a liberal like yourself elected in a republican stronghold like Ohio". Ohio... a republican stronghold. (laughs) How low we must have gone. You know why Franklin Roosevelt won election 4 times, sweeping Ohio in all of them. It's because he offered the poor farmers and poor urban workers a change to failed republican policy's. It's not different from today. I will go to these same folk and tell them, "How has Trump's talk cuts for the Rich helped you?". The answer to that is... it hasn't. Trump will fear my candidacy because i offer real progressive change, not old strategy's we see from people on this change and in our party leadership.  

3. The situation in Venezuela is very unstable yet former Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders said it was the beacon of how great Socialism is. What is your position on Venezuela?

- I have to disagree with Sander's hear of course. Venezuela is of course is a failed state but the notion that it is a example of socialism really gets to me. When 60-80% of the economy is privately owned, that is not socialism, that is totalitarianism and elitism. The chaos we see in the country is only due to these policy's. In fact calling it such is a disservice to the millions that died from real socialism and communism in the Old Soviet Union. But back to your question, i will make sure the United States will not intervene but we will keep a watchful eye. If a humanitarian crisis occurs, its a different story but i don't want this to turn to another Iraq which republicans are already begging for.

4. Next year, we are planning to drop out of the Paris Climate Agreement. If you're elected, will you stop this exit or continue it?

- You know i remembered a Republican Party that cared for environmentalism. This shouldn't be a partisan issue, Global Warming is occurring and caring for the environment is not a "liberal" position. The Paris Climate Agreement is not a "liberal" pact and shouldn't be. The Earth is not a partisan issue and i will rejoin the agreement if i'm elected.

CANDIDATE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS


To Senator Brown: 1. Senator, you recently called yourself a somewhat Bernie-ite. Can to explain?

- Sure. It means i support people first policy's. I support policy's that help people before Big Business. Senator Sanders supports this too and thus i guess i'm a "Bernite". I support position's that should be universal. Medicare for all of our citizens, ending oversea's wars, helping our poor and our sick... You may say this is Socialism but when every other modern country has these provisions, i call it "common sense".



You know, I'd just like to respond to Senator Brown claiming that President Franklin Roosevelt handily won Ohio four times. That is simply false. President Roosevelt only won Ohio three times, and one of those three times was a plurality win. He then lost it to Governor Dewey in 1944. I would highly recommend that you brush up on your state's history before you make false claims sir.

In response to attack from John Delaney

...Recently John Delaney accused me of providing false claims in the recent debate regarding Ohio's voting record under FDR. Yes, my claim was not accurate and it was during the heat of the debate. This is simply petty to be attacked upon. I see he would rather attack me for saying one wrong thing rather then talking about the real issues. The real issues also include the fact that the wealthy control our political scene today. Mr. Delaney is a firsthand example of this. He says he is for the working man but raises big money donations from banks and big business on Wall Street. He'd rather work on "bi-partisanship" when it means his donors approve, and not when the working class approve. He is a New Democrat, he is a centrist, he offers no new ideas. We have seen his ideas before, Bill Clinton called. Which was also during the time when the Unions collapsed in size and income inequality skyrocketed. As I said, petty. Let's get onto these issues that Mr. Delaney would not like you to hear (cheers).



Ok, getting your wonderful state's history right is no big deal, I get it. Please Senator, do continue to discuss insiders, hacks, and big money donation grabbers. Don't get me started on the tens of millions of dollars your campaigns have chugged over the years from powerful law firms, energy companies, real estate investment trust companies, and so so so much more. You sir are the definition of a true monied career politician. Been in congress for well over a quarter of a century, and in political office for nearly half a century, nearly 2/3rd's of your entire life. And you even ran for reelection and won in 2018 before running for the presidency now. Why you might ask folks? Because he is a career politician who always has a cunning backup plan to stay in office even if he loses this time. America does not need that. Huh, me... I am an innovator here to help America, but first I need yours by choosing me America. I just recently came into the political field several years ago after making it, and helping others make it too, and I wanted to give back. And I chose not to run for reelection in order to focus on this presidential campaign. I don't have a sneaky backup plan like career politician Senator Brown. I am here to give the American people the full attention that they deserve, and I am here to help America once again. I rose from humble backgrounds, and made several multi-million dollar publicly traded companies at one of the youngest ages, created thousands of new jobs, and was given multiple awards for innovation and having some of the best work environments in the DC-Baltimore area year after year. I'll be damned if some flat career politician is going to lecture me about my "lack of ingenuity, ideas, etc". If Senator Brown cannot even get the simple facts right, I really do worry how he will handle bigger issues if elected.
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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 03:21:35 PM »
« Edited: January 26, 2018, 03:23:51 PM by Bagel23 »

Kander drops out.


Hello America. Today I'm dropping out of the race for President.  I know, its a difficult decision. But the time has come. I am however, encouraging all of my supporters to support representative John Delaney for the presidency of the United States. Thank you.



John Delaney at a campaign meet and greet and Q&A event in Gilford New Hampshire:

Well Mr. Harabedian, that was a great question about lowering premiums, and I hope all turns out well for your family. Well for starters, what we need to do is restart a lot of funding for Obamacare, something that the current administration has severely cut, and then wonders why it does not work as well anymore. Alright, are there any more questions from people in the audience? Ok then, I do have a statement to make regarding Mr. Kander and his endorsement. For all who have not heard yet, Mr. Kander has ended his campaign for the presidency and endorsed me to continue on the fight. I am truly honored and humbled to have such a great endorsement from such a stand up and wonderful man in our nation, and I will continue to fight for our shared democratic values, and common-sense reform. I hope  this wakes up Senator Brown to the reality, the democratic party does not want another career politician for the millionth time. No, not this time. His lies are unbearable, accusing me of being a corporate pocket liner, no, I am proud to have the support of many progressives throughout this beautiful country, and Jason Kander serves to further my point. A strong, common sense, progressive, great man, supporting this candidacy. A million thanks to you my friend, and together we shall continue to march forward as one. Thank you, thank you, Gilford. God bless all of you, have a safe trip home, and God bless America!
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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 09:41:49 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2018, 09:43:27 PM by Bagel23 »

ON RESPONSE BY CONGRESSMAN DELANEY



"Folk's you've heard of Congressmen Delaney before. (Screams of No) Me neither, yet he is the guy who say's he fights for the little guy when he is the perfect stooge for Corporate America. Recently he said of me "You sir are the definition of a true monied career politician" (in Delaney accent speak). You know... i can't let that slip. Sure i wanted to make this campaign about the issues and try to avoid bickering, you know discuss what American's want to hear, Affordable Healthcare, caring about representation in our Government, ext.

Oh Well. (Laughs) American politics i guess.

I find it ironic he would say that all considering he is the same one who donated a couple thousand to Republican Andy Harris. I remember he endorsed Roy Moore. Let's also ignore the hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions he has received so far in donations from high end contribution's. In fact he has seen contribution from the same elite's he says he opposes. So i find it appalled he would have the audacity to dare accuse me of being out of touch and a big monied politician. I have promised and have stuck to my word in this campaign. I refuse to talk donations over $1000, i want small money donations. Mine is grassroots powered by people like you (cheers from the crowd). You wanna know what my average contribution is. $35. Yes, just $35's, that's it. Delaney meanwhile relies on much bigger contributions from rich donor's who know he will have their interests in mine.

Let's talk about the numbers for a minute. These are a little outdated but i'll go on. 80% of his donor's are from the Washington DC area and of which, the average contribution is $2700 each. In just the third quarter of 2017, he had already raised 544,000 dollars from wealthy individuals and $29,000 more from his packs. Some of these names include David Trone, David Blair, and Paul Tagliabue among others. Compared to mine, i'm proud to say the average contribution is $35 dollars and 89% of my contributions so far are from small money donor's.

Just to finish this up, his 5 top industry's, he is contributed by include Securities and Investment, Real Estate, Lawyer firms, Commercial Banks, and other Financial sectors. You want to know one of his top donor's from a company in total... JPMorgan. This along with the other evidence i have shown you baffles me how anyone can believe he is not a stooge with these company's. Look i'm sure he made his own money fairly, and i don't doubt that he is a self made man, but he is a puppet. I hope he just admit's he is a puppet. Finally you say you have fresh new ideas. But at the same time you say these platitudes like "i can bring republicans and democrats together" and "I'm a self made businessman and i can fix America". Congressmen Delaney, we have heard these thing's before from both Democrats and Republican's. These are not new ideas, you Congressmen are repeating decades old lies.


OOC: Ok, dude Delaney never supported Moore, this cannot actually be factored in to the debate. That is just pure bs, at least be a little realistic.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 03:24:29 PM »

Is this thing dead now?
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2018, 01:03:27 PM »

It's obvious that this thing is dead and no one cares anymore, I quit.
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