Kamala Harris: "Do *what* now?"

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The next Democrat nominee.

uggggg   Get read for President DeSantis I guess, I don't know if we're ready for <looks it up> an Italian president.  Is there no way Polis can win a Dem primary?

Why should women vote for De Santis, a Republican? Women just lost a freedom they enjoyed for 50 years thanks to them. Are we are supposed to vote for the party who did this? Are you crazy?

It's really time for a woman president and Kamala is already the closest person to the position than anyone. Let's see what she's got. Men, get out of the way, you've had the helm long enough.

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It doesn't have to be Harris, but another Trump clone? Jesus, back.

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The next Democrat nominee.

uggggg   Get read for President DeSantis I guess, I don't know if we're ready for <looks it up> an Italian president.  Is there no way Polis can win a Dem primary?

Why should women vote for De Santis, a Republican? Women just lost a freedom they enjoyed for 50 years thanks to them. Are we are supposed to vote for the party who did this? Are you crazy?

It's really time for a woman president and Kamala is already the closest person to the position than anyone. Let's see what she's got. Men, get out of the way, you've had the helm long enough.

You can't win presidential elections just by being the better candidate choice for people who are already voting.A huge part of it is getting people who only vote sometimes or have never voted before to show up and vote for you. Hillary Clinton was only able to SOMEWHAT do that because people hated Trump and wanted to make sure he lost. Harris probably won't be able to rely on sometimes-voters and non-voters to show up to vote for her to make sure Trump / DeSantis lose, and even if she can, it's probably not enough. You need to inspire non-political "normies" to show up to vote FOR you, not just people who will strategy vote for you to defeat your opponent. Obama did this. Bernie did this. We need somebody who can do this. That's more important than nominating a woman who's probably going to lose the election.

Here's another angle. See, women never forget. They never forget ANY inappropriate sexual things that have been done to them, no matter what age they are. They never forget the slights from society they experience, such as unequal pay for equal work. They will absolutely never forget what Trump said about grabbing the pussy thing. And now with a Freedom having been taken away from them regarding abortion, I believe that women are primed and ready to fight.

Talk about "inspiring non-political 'normies'" to show up to vote, women ARE inspired. And Kamala is a woman. And she is in a prominent political position in our government. In spite of what people here think, many women and girls look up to her.

If anyone is in a position to have influence over women it's Kamala Harris. Many guys might not agree with this but, well....you are entitled to your opinion.

And in my opinion, Kamala is not VP material. She is not shining in that position because she is a born leader, not a follower. Put her in the top spot and watch her find her voice and her power as a woman, and watch her lead this country in the right direction that benefits everyone. At least she will try.

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The next Democrat nominee.

uggggg   Get read for President DeSantis I guess, I don't know if we're ready for <looks it up> an Italian president.  Is there no way Polis can win a Dem primary?

Why should women vote for De Santis, a Republican? Women just lost a freedom they enjoyed for 50 years thanks to them. Are we are supposed to vote for the party who did this? Are you crazy?

It's really time for a woman president and Kamala is already the closest person to the position than anyone. Let's see what she's got. Men, get out of the way, you've had the helm long enough.

You can't win presidential elections just by being the better candidate choice for people who are already voting.A huge part of it is getting people who only vote sometimes or have never voted before to show up and vote for you. Hillary Clinton was only able to SOMEWHAT do that because people hated Trump and wanted to make sure he lost. Harris probably won't be able to rely on sometimes-voters and non-voters to show up to vote for her to make sure Trump / DeSantis lose, and even if she can, it's probably not enough. You need to inspire non-political "normies" to show up to vote FOR you, not just people who will strategy vote for you to defeat your opponent. Obama did this. Bernie did this. We need somebody who can do this. That's more important than nominating a woman who's probably going to lose the election.

Here's another angle. See, women never forget. They never forget ANY inappropriate sexual things that have been done to them, no matter what age they are. They never forget the slights from society they experience, such as unequal pay for equal work. They will absolutely never forget what Trump said about grabbing the pussy thing. And now with a Freedom having been taken away from them regarding abortion, I believe that women are primed and ready to fight.

Talk about "inspiring non-political 'normies'" to show up to vote, women ARE inspired. And Kamala is a woman. And she is in a prominent political position in our government. In spite of what people here think, many women and girls look up to her.

If anyone is in a position to have influence over women it's Kamala Harris. Many guys might not agree with this but, well....you are entitled to your opinion.

And in my opinion, Kamala is not VP material. She is not shining in that position because she is a born leader, not a follower. Put her in the top spot and watch her find her voice and her power as a woman, and watch her lead this country in the right direction that benefits everyone. At least she will try.

A lot of women(mostly white, but not entirely) were quite happy to vote for the embodiment of piggish rapey misogyny.

Yes, many of them did. And I call them the ones with low self-esteem, the ones who don't value themselves as people. And I pray for them.

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It tends to happen to most VPs but what is the point of Harris?

What does she bring that another random senator brings? Her campaign imploding and her VP office collapsing several times was a big red flag.

Women get tired of defending themselves from talk like this. And my guess is that usually it's a male talking, because he doesn't seem to be aware of any strengths that women have to bring to the table that men don't have.

Something women do that they are very good at (in general terms...not all women certainly) is that they are natural-born herders. Their flock they watch over with the utmost care, and women are always trying to gather in their flock.

That is not the strength of men in general. If you want to understand the real political climate, you have to look at the males because they have always dominated the scene, especially the white males. That's just the way it's been. And it got us to this point in our history.

But now, there is too much unrest in the world, and what seems logical to me is that it's time for all women to call back their flocks to home. This is a touch that women have to offer society that has been too underused, to our detriment.

The climate of politics needs to change, and that means listening to more and more women. Liz Cheney comes to mind. Her speech in front of her fellow Republicans was killer. She was challenging everyone to turn toward truth, and rationality, and country. Who among her colleagues will step up to the plate, a plate that a woman is leading?

Will she be discounted because of her gender? Will she be discounted because she is standing up to lies? Cheney does not hero worship Trump, yet look at how many Republicans do?

There is Amy Klobuchar who has one of the highest rate of bills passed in the Senate. Does anyone care? She's a go-getter, the right age for President, and I would vote for her over President Biden at this point.

Here's a question I have. What do men bring to the table that we haven't heard before a thousand times? We need to listen to fresh voices now.

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Imagine thinking Cheney is in this charade for anything more than her own ego and wallet.

What policy has she supported, in rhetoric or on paper, that would advance the needs of working and lower middle class Americans?

What policies do any Republicans support on that front?

I think you are wrong about Cheney. She is a public servant of the people. I think she grew up that way. You are assigning motives to her that I don't think are her main motivations for doing anything.

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The next Democrat nominee.

uggggg   Get read for President DeSantis I guess, I don't know if we're ready for <looks it up> an Italian president.  Is there no way Polis can win a Dem primary?

Why should women vote for De Santis, a Republican? Women just lost a freedom they enjoyed for 50 years thanks to them. Are we are supposed to vote for the party who did this? Are you crazy?

It's really time for a woman president and Kamala is already the closest person to the position than anyone. Let's see what she's got. Men, get out of the way, you've had the helm long enough.

You can't win presidential elections just by being the better candidate choice for people who are already voting.A huge part of it is getting people who only vote sometimes or have never voted before to show up and vote for you. Hillary Clinton was only able to SOMEWHAT do that because people hated Trump and wanted to make sure he lost. Harris probably won't be able to rely on sometimes-voters and non-voters to show up to vote for her to make sure Trump / DeSantis lose, and even if she can, it's probably not enough. You need to inspire non-political "normies" to show up to vote FOR you, not just people who will strategy vote for you to defeat your opponent. Obama did this. Bernie did this. We need somebody who can do this. That's more important than nominating a woman who's probably going to lose the election.

Here's another angle. See, women never forget. They never forget ANY inappropriate sexual things that have been done to them, no matter what age they are. They never forget the slights from society they experience, such as unequal pay for equal work. They will absolutely never forget what Trump said about grabbing the pussy thing. And now with a Freedom having been taken away from them regarding abortion, I believe that women are primed and ready to fight.

Talk about "inspiring non-political 'normies'" to show up to vote, women ARE inspired. And Kamala is a woman. And she is in a prominent political position in our government. In spite of what people here think, many women and girls look up to her.

If anyone is in a position to have influence over women it's Kamala Harris. Many guys might not agree with this but, well....you are entitled to your opinion.

And in my opinion, Kamala is not VP material. She is not shining in that position because she is a born leader, not a follower. Put her in the top spot and watch her find her voice and her power as a woman, and watch her lead this country in the right direction that benefits everyone. At least she will try.

Leaders learn how to follow before then can lead.  That's a fact.  

Kamala Harris is not a "born leader" because she is obtuse to the consequences of leadership.  Nothing is ever her fault, but real leadership understands that the buck stops with them.  

Even Donald Trump, who never admitted fault, governed knowing that he'd be judged by what he did.  People got that.  Obama got that somewhat.  W. got that somewhat.  Even BILL Clinton got that somewhat.

Kamala Harris does not get that.  She has done NOTHING to inspire people to follow her because she is a narcissist who is focused on herself, exclusively.  It's the one thing she has in common with Hillary Clinton, who's an HP but DOES have a major league intellect.  It's why she ran a terrible campaign.  What compelling reason is there to pick HER?  Indeed, even for VP, what compelling reason is there to pick HER?

If Republicans can elect the King of Narcissism then you have no leg to stand on when/if the Democrats elect one.

And if you don't know the answers to your other questions then so be it. That's why women are making gains in our society as slow as turtles. There seems to be inbred bias against them. That's what it looks like to me.

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Imagine thinking Cheney is in this charade for anything more than her own ego and wallet.

What policy has she supported, in rhetoric or on paper, that would advance the needs of working and lower middle class Americans?

I'll never forget how she threw her own sister under the bus for being a lesbian. Awful person.

Didn't Cheney correct herself? People need time to think about long-held beliefs and change them when appropriate. You are being too harsh on her. And no, I'm not trying to stick up for Liz Cheney. Lord knows I'd never vote for her. But she is one tough cookie, tougher than most any other Republican to stand up to Mr. T, and I admire her grit.

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Kamala Harris is our first female VP. She is in a unique position. Contrary to what many people on the forum here think about her, I think she has potential that is untapped. And it will forever go untapped because she is in a job that doesn't have much meat to it.

True, she should strive to ace the job of VP to the best of her ability so she can move on to bigger and better jobs.

In light of this, what do you think Kamala should be doing to prove her worth? I personally fail to understand what posters here explicitly want from her.

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Kamala Harris is our first female VP. She is in a unique position. Contrary to what many people on the forum here think about her, I think she has potential that is untapped. And it will forever go untapped because she is in a job that doesn't have much meat to it.

True, she should strive to ace the job of VP to the best of her ability so she can move on to bigger and better jobs.

In light of this, what do you think Kamala should be doing to prove her worth? I personally fail to understand what posters here explicitly want from her.

Her shortcomings in this moment are the same as those of Biden. Sure, her hard power is minimal, but her soft power is much more considerable. Drum up support for structural reforms to Congress and SCOTUS and more innovative ways to outmaneuver GOP obstructionism. On an even more basic level, their response to Dobbs in terms of pure messaging has been nauseatingly calculated. I want to see our leaders displaying some of the genuine emotion and anger people across this country are feeling rather than repeating the same platitudes about the importance of voting.

You sound like you are looking for passion in one's occupation. Well, Kamala certainly doesn't look like she has any of that as VP. She is very reserved. Maybe she's hard to get to know. People want an outgoing personality as President? Or do you want a solid human being who cares about people?

I think the problem with politics today is that it has become entertainment. People expect more of our politicians than to just be smart and do their job. After Trump, we also expect our Presidents to be entertainers.

I'm not looking for that personally, and I know a lot of people who aren't. We want good leaders, solid leaders, leaders who care about people. All the people. Too many have been left behind. That's the type of caring that we need in politics today. That's what's been missing. Everything is so cold and calculating. It's boring.