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« Reply #450 on: June 19, 2022, 01:01:16 PM »

Well this is going to be a mess

ENS 210-250
NUPES 150-180
RN 80-100
LR+ 60-70
DVD 7-12
DVG 4-8
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« Reply #451 on: June 19, 2022, 01:01:38 PM »

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« Reply #452 on: June 19, 2022, 01:02:12 PM »

Wow ... want a blowout number for RN.  It seems NUS voters must have voted RN to defeat ENS
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« Reply #453 on: June 19, 2022, 01:02:35 PM »



Ipsos exit.

Two things. 1: That would be a near 100% rate for LR/UDI. It will probably be high, but not that much, especially since RN will be picking from them. So its probably lower, which begs the question where their voters will go.

Also obviously RN overperformance.

NUPES falls flat.
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« Reply #454 on: June 19, 2022, 01:02:35 PM »

good f**king grief
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« Reply #455 on: June 19, 2022, 01:04:55 PM »

So I'm curious where the RN seats are now coming from. Obviously it seems the must have way overperformed in runoffs with NUPES, but they also must be winning seats outside the north and south.
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« Reply #456 on: June 19, 2022, 01:05:48 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2022, 01:13:20 PM by ms. yung globalist »

Very bad, but probably not unsurprising when the FN's strong performance in round 1 had already shown they seemed to be getting better at turning their vote out in legislatives. Will definitely be interesting to see if they overperformed in run-offs against NUPES, especially seeing as Mélenchon seemed to go full hippie/FREE ASSANGE in the last week in a way that I can't imagine was necessarily the most appealing to the sort of voters who decide those run-offs.
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« Reply #457 on: June 19, 2022, 01:06:41 PM »

Seat projections are not always as easy to get right as vote shares, we do need to remember that. But it does look as if we can rule out an absolute majority for President Jupiter.
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« Reply #458 on: June 19, 2022, 01:07:07 PM »

Bear in mind that over the last week LREM and friends have accused NUPES of being equally as anti-républicain as the RN, have equivocated on how the behave in RN-NUPES run offs, made everything out as to accelerate the detoxification of RN. Because how can you honestly claim the RN are some unique evil if you then turn around and claim that the left are equally as bad?
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« Reply #459 on: June 19, 2022, 01:07:24 PM »

On those disastrous numbers, I assume that vote transfers to macronismo were terrible, much like in 2017, except that they had much less leeway than five years ago, hence this trainwreck.

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« Reply #460 on: June 19, 2022, 01:07:41 PM »

An Ensemble+LR/UDI coalition incoming?
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« Reply #461 on: June 19, 2022, 01:08:59 PM »


Putin as PM ?
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« Reply #462 on: June 19, 2022, 01:09:33 PM »

On those disastrous numbers, I assume that vote transfers to macronismo were terrible, much like in 2017, except that they had much less leeway than five years ago, hence this trainwreck.

Occam suggests this is the likely explanation (which could mean some serious 'Huh' winners in places) but, as you know but not everyone will, we will have to wait a little to be sure.
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« Reply #463 on: June 19, 2022, 01:09:38 PM »

An Ensemble+LR/UDI coalition incoming?

Yes I think if the exits were 100% accurate Macron would turn to LR/UDI, and justify it as protecting against the growing extremes.
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« Reply #464 on: June 19, 2022, 01:11:15 PM »

Christophe Castaner and Richard Ferrand have lost their seats.
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« Reply #465 on: June 19, 2022, 01:20:16 PM »

Just looking at a few seats it is clear RN has overperformed.  They are leading in seats againist NUS and ENS I did not expect them to.
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« Reply #466 on: June 19, 2022, 01:21:30 PM »

National results: 57% counted (mostly rural votes)

34.9% Ensemble, 14 seats
25.5% NUPES, 13
22.4% RN, 7
  9.4% LR/UDI, 10
  3.2% DG, 14
  2.2% Regional parties, 8
  1.7% DD, 5
  0.6% DC, 2
  0.1% Others, 1

47.3% Turnout
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« Reply #467 on: June 19, 2022, 01:21:57 PM »

Relaying the Mediapart coverage, but with 90 deputies you can be sure that there are going to be some absolute batshďt insane RN types getting elected. Prepare for fun times ahead there.
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« Reply #468 on: June 19, 2022, 01:23:26 PM »

The minister of health has also been defeated.
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« Reply #469 on: June 19, 2022, 01:23:57 PM »

On those disastrous numbers, I assume that vote transfers to macronismo were terrible, much like in 2017, except that they had much less leeway than five years ago, hence this trainwreck.

Looking at some results, yes, transfers to macronismo were absolutely terrible: it's very obvious in ENS vs. RN runoffs, but also in ENS vs. Right runoffs (as in 2017 in the latter case).
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« Reply #470 on: June 19, 2022, 01:25:33 PM »

Prime Minister Élisabeth Borne is leading 52-48% in her constituency.
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« Reply #471 on: June 19, 2022, 01:26:16 PM »

Also looking very clear that LR/UDI types when confronted with NUPES went hard to RN. The two seats I used as benchmarks for this are Loiret 4 and Yonne 3. Both are historically Conservative, both are NUPES vs RN, and both had non-LFI candidates. Both look like losses.

Hell, Gironde 5 as well!
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« Reply #472 on: June 19, 2022, 01:27:05 PM »

Health minister Brigitte Bourguignon lost to RN candidate according to Le Figaro.
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« Reply #473 on: June 19, 2022, 01:28:34 PM »

On those disastrous numbers, I assume that vote transfers to macronismo were terrible, much like in 2017, except that they had much less leeway than five years ago, hence this trainwreck.

Looking at some results, yes, transfers to macronismo were absolutely terrible: it's very obvious in ENS vs. RN runoffs, but also in ENS vs. Right runoffs (as in 2017 in the latter case).

On the other hand, it's also looking as if transfers to the NUPES when up against the RN were also quite bad: it's clear that a fair (substantial) number of macronista and right-wing voters went to the RN rather than NUPES.

I guess that's what happens when macronismo spends weeks talking about 'the extremes', plural, and depicting NUPES as the second coming of Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong. Disgusting stuff.
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« Reply #474 on: June 19, 2022, 01:29:15 PM »

Prime Minister Élisabeth Borne is leading 52-48% in her constituency.

Source? Le Monde doesn't have any results in for that constituency.
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