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Question: Will it, if at all, affect the polls?
#1
Swing to trump by or more than 1 point
 
#2
Swing to trump by less than 1
 
#3
No change
 
#4
Swing to clinton by or more than 1
 
#5
Swing to clinton by less than 1
 
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Author Topic: Impact of NJ/NY bombings and MN stabbings on the race?  (Read 1840 times)
SirMuxALot
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« on: September 19, 2016, 12:58:41 PM »

It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers.

So a Trump voter?

I guess the Southern Poverty Law Center can put this one in the right wing extremism column then.
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 02:16:22 PM »

There's been rumors that Trump actually was the catalyst in the bomber's motive. I don't know if it's true or not.

Wait, because he liked Trump or because he hated him?

Was Trump "asking for it"?
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 03:04:53 PM »

So you're saying Trump should dress less provocatively?
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 03:23:27 PM »

After reading this thread, I now understand how the Southern Poverty Law Center comes up with those statistics on right wing violence.

For instance, an abortion clinic bombing.  Committed by anti-abortion activist, so we chalk it up to right wing violence.  Okay.

Now we get this guy, not a right winger himself by any standard, but claims to be triggered by a right winger, so we can easily chalk this up as right wing violence.

Okay, I think I got it now.
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 04:14:23 PM »

"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be.

Surely an even more significant trigger would be our pluralistic society, freedom of religion, democratic elections, etc.

Would you similarly argue that this is a valid argument against us continuing these institutions? 

After all, if you think we should consider Trump's impact on extremists as an argument against Trump, then you must recognize that this will lead you to argue against freedom of religion, free elections and the like.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2016, 04:35:01 PM »

How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

Very good!  It doesn't.

Now take the next logical step to understand that Trump giving speeches also doesn't.
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« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2016, 04:49:37 PM »

Trump's rhetoric is, and has actually been used by ISIS.

Is ISIS correct in their interpretation of Trump's statements?  Are their actions justified?
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2016, 05:40:01 PM »

Let's try this another way.

If it was wrong for Trump to say the President was the "founder of ISIS"... (it was indeed wrong for him to do that)...

Then why is okay to say Trump is a recruiting tool for ISIS?
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SirMuxALot
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2016, 06:51:39 PM »

Because he is. They're using him in their recruitment videos/efforts to convince potential new members.

President Obama and Mrs. Clinton have also appeared in such videos.  Doesn't mean either is responsible any terrorism.

But you have a different standard for for them, don't you?
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