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Question: Will it, if at all, affect the polls?
#1
Swing to trump by or more than 1 point
 
#2
Swing to trump by less than 1
 
#3
No change
 
#4
Swing to clinton by or more than 1
 
#5
Swing to clinton by less than 1
 
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Total Voters: 80

Author Topic: Impact of NJ/NY bombings and MN stabbings on the race?  (Read 1845 times)
‼realJohnEwards‼
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« on: September 19, 2016, 03:26:21 PM »

After reading this thread, I now understand how the Southern Poverty Law Center comes up with those statistics on right wing violence.

For instance, an abortion clinic bombing.  Committed by anti-abortion activist, so we chalk it up to right wing violence.  Okay.

Now we get this guy, not a right winger himself by any standard, but claims to be triggered by a right winger, so we can easily chalk this up as right wing violence.

Okay, I think I got it now.
"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be. You should be scared for a Trump presidency, because this would not be the last time this happened.
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‼realJohnEwards‼
MatteKudasai
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« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2016, 04:30:48 PM »

"Triggered" by Trump in the same way that so many potential ISIS members would be.

Surely an even more significant trigger would be our pluralistic society, freedom of religion, democratic elections, etc.

Would you similarly argue that this is a valid argument against us continuing these institutions?  

After all, if you think we should consider Trump's impact on extremists as an argument against Trump, then you must recognize that this will lead you to argue against freedom of religion, free elections and the like.
Um. ISIS's whole narrative for existence is that Muslims are distrusted and oppressed worldwide. How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

It is not that they (i.e. rank and file ISIS) are offended b the idea of foreign democracies. It is that they are scared of us, and fear breeds desperation.
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‼realJohnEwards‼
MatteKudasai
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E: -6.19, S: -4.87

« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2016, 04:47:32 PM »

How exactly does another country being a democracy aid in that?

Very good!  It doesn't.

Now take the next logical step to understand that Trump giving speeches also doesn't.
A country being a democracy isn't going to strike fear into the hearts of Muslims worldwide. Trump's rhetoric is, and has actually been used by ISIS.
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‼realJohnEwards‼
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2016, 04:56:07 PM »

Trump's rhetoric is, and has actually been used by ISIS.

Is ISIS correct in their interpretation of Trump's statements?  Are their actions justified?
When people are afraid, they act irrationally. You, me, everyone.
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‼realJohnEwards‼
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2016, 07:41:47 PM »

It was nothing but a disgruntled American making bombs out of pressure cookers.

So a Trump voter?

I guess the Southern Poverty Law Center can put this one in the right wing extremism column then.

All extremism is right wing. The left only supports positive movements.

Bolshevism is right wing?
Yes, obviously. Anything I disagree with is automatically right wing Wink
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