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« Reply #50 on: April 02, 2021, 06:23:23 PM »

Via CNN ... Biden, who is spending the weekend at Camp David, also ordered the US flag to be flown at half-staff at the White House and all federal buildings Friday until sunset on April 6 in honor of Evans.
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« Reply #51 on: April 02, 2021, 06:33:23 PM »

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Noah Green, the suspect who law enforcement sources say rammed his car into two US Capitol Police officers on Friday, posted on social media in the weeks before the attack that he had lost his job and suffered medical ailments, and said he believed the federal government was targeting him with "mind control."

... “The U.S. Government is the #1 enemy of Black people!" a caption on one video read. In another post on the Instagram account, Green wrote last week that he believed Farrakhan had saved him "after the terrible afflictions I have suffered presumably by the CIA and FBI, government agencies of the United States of America."

Responding to a comment on that post, Green wrote, “I have suffered multiple home break ins, food poisonings, assaults, unauthorized operations in the hospital, mind control.” 

It sounds like the killer was mentally ill.
Here is some of what CNN has posted (see above).
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« Reply #52 on: April 03, 2021, 04:46:24 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.
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« Reply #53 on: April 03, 2021, 05:37:01 AM »

Looks to me like your usual "suicide by cop" terrorist attack, the kind that happens sometimes in say, France.
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« Reply #54 on: April 03, 2021, 07:40:25 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?
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« Reply #55 on: April 03, 2021, 07:46:19 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?

Hyperbole ?

Do you have a problem with the truth ?
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« Reply #56 on: April 03, 2021, 09:22:22 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?

Hyperbole ?

Do you have a problem with the truth ?

Truth is not about what you're sharing here.  It's an opinion.
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« Reply #57 on: April 03, 2021, 09:25:58 AM »

This is a good way for Pelosi for restarting the Commission, this will stop the Rs from going back to their QANON support

This will take Cruz, Hawley out of Congress due today fact they were escorting Insurrectionists around the house before the Insurrectionists


Rand Paul and Johnson have already gone back to QAnonon
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« Reply #58 on: April 03, 2021, 09:37:59 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

According to the FBI, yes. White supremacy is the biggest domestic terror threat in the United States.
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« Reply #59 on: April 03, 2021, 10:54:42 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?

Hyperbole ?

Do you have a problem with the truth ?

Truth is not about what you're sharing here.  It's an opinion.

Domestic terrorism by the GOP and its affiliate, the NRA, is well documented.

There are 100.000s of (dead) victims.
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« Reply #60 on: April 03, 2021, 10:58:51 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?

Hyperbole ?

Do you have a problem with the truth ?

Truth is not about what you're sharing here.  It's an opinion.

Domestic terrorism by the GOP and its affiliate, the NRA, is well documented.

There are 100.000s of (dead) victims.

This is Excessive Hyperbole.
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« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2021, 10:59:51 AM »

Do the people who said the barriers should come down want to stick to demanding that?

I'm pretty sure this particular road block has always been there and wouldn't be coming down, fwiw.

This is correct.  No vehicle was ever getting through it.
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« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2021, 11:10:30 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

It literally is. I say this having worked in a national security think tank for 2+ years and reading loads of jihadi propaganda about why they are the biggest and baddest kids on the block. Some things to consider:

1) Numbers alone: There are a lot more right-wing crazies in the US than even the broadest definition of "Islamic extremists."
2) Ability to advertise, recruit, and train in the US: See how long it takes you to find a newsletter or a "contact us" for a right-wing militia group. Then try that for a group like al-Qaeda or ISIL. (NoI is a notable exception for this, hence my post earlier in the thread about why I expect that not to last much longer).
3) Visibility and openness: How often have you seen news interviews with right-wing militia members vs. jihadis or other Islamic extremist groups in the US? When was the last time there was a no-kidding Islamist rally in the US where al-Qaeda and ISIL flags were flown on the scale of Unite the Right or January 6th? If such a rally happened, how long do you think it would last before being shut down and everyone arrested?
4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people," and Islamic extremist groups have considered every American politician their enemy, including people like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, who have made Muslim civil rights cornerstones of their campaigns.

One good anecdotal example of this is that, when I was specifically working on trying to assess the threat of al-Qaeda-aligned Syrians (admittedly only a small sub-section of a broader network) conducting an attack in the US, basically the only evidence of a actual presence I could find I could find was a series of photos taken Pennsylvania by someone for a pro-al-Qaeda magazine based in Syria. Meanwhile, even despite living in places like Seattle and DC, there is a very obvious presence by groups like the Proud Boys and to a lesser extent the Oath Keepers and III%ers that has led to overtly violent confrontations in both cities multiple times in the last 5 years. If the question is which I feel threatened by, it's the one that burned flares and waved their flags outside the store where I was going Christmas shopping back pre-COVID, and they definitely weren't shouting "Allahu Akbar."
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« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2021, 11:13:25 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.
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« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2021, 11:35:40 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.



Chants .... "Jews will not replace us!"      "Blood and Soil !"
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« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2021, 11:48:36 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

Where's that outcry for thread derailing or "excessive hyperbole"?  How come this post isn't deleted yet?

Hyperbole ?

Do you have a problem with the truth ?

Truth is not about what you're sharing here.  It's an opinion.

Domestic terrorism by the GOP and its affiliate, the NRA, is well documented.

There are 100.000s of (dead) victims.

This is Excessive Hyperbole.
And claiming the election was stolen and Joe has dementia is not? Get out of here, man.
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« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2021, 11:51:25 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.
“Sir, my client here explicitly said that murder should be condemned right before shooting up that church. Therefore he is innocent.”
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« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2021, 12:13:38 PM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.



Chants .... "Jews will not replace us!"      "Blood and Soil !"

There were reports of people who didn't realize who was behind the rally who were at the rally, that's what Trump was talking about when he said that there were very fine people on both sides.

Even if there were only Nazis at the rally, it's probable that Trump was speaking from ignorance and that he thought there were non-Nazis there.

If Trump had actually said that Nazis were very fine people, it would have been played in commercials every day during the election season and Trump would have lost every single state.
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« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2021, 01:11:50 PM »

Also, just to state the obvious, trying to lump NoI with ISIL under a single "Islamic" umbrella is about as analytically useful as linking the FLDS Church and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom under a single "Christian" umbrella.
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« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2021, 03:53:13 PM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

According to the FBI, yes. White supremacy is the biggest domestic terror threat in the United States.

The FBI is likely to change that tune when the next Republican president takes office.
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« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2021, 04:57:31 PM »

Uh oh, wrong narrative.  Move right along folks.

Will be forgotten by tomorrow.

What a profoundly classless and all-around shi##y post.

No surprise to see The Usual Suspects recommending it.
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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2021, 05:03:32 PM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.



Chants .... "Jews will not replace us!"      "Blood and Soil !"

There were reports of people who didn't realize who was behind the rally who were at the rally, that's what Trump was talking about when he said that there were very fine people on both sides.

Even if there were only Nazis at the rally, it's probable that Trump was speaking from ignorance and that he thought there were non-Nazis there.

If Trump had actually said that Nazis were very fine people, it would have been played in commercials every day during the election season and Trump would have lost every single state.

Apologism for this stuff  based on unadulterated BS is an ugly look.
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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2021, 07:51:03 PM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people,"

And Trump never called Nazis "very fine people" he explicitly said that neo-Nazis should be condemned.



Chants .... "Jews will not replace us!"      "Blood and Soil !"

There were reports of people who didn't realize who was behind the rally who were at the rally, that's what Trump was talking about when he said that there were very fine people on both sides.

Even if there were only Nazis at the rally, it's probable that Trump was speaking from ignorance and that he thought there were non-Nazis there.

If Trump had actually said that Nazis were very fine people, it would have been played in commercials every day during the election season and Trump would have lost every single state.

We're too polarized at this point for the last part to happen. He said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and lose no support, and that's true. Kids were locked up in cage and he somehow gained votes from the very demographic most affected.

Even if he were ignorant, it'd be from watching Fox all day and them doing their best to make sure obvi neo-Nazis aren't called that.
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