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« on: February 11, 2019, 02:23:02 PM »

I am surprised that no one has posted this yet: https://www.nationalreview.com/news/obamas-ambassador-to-israel-condemns-ilhan-omars-vile-anti-semitism/. Yes, I know that it is National Review, but I have been unable to find any articles about this on any "mainstream" or liberal websites, and National Review is in any case, a respected "establishment conservative" publication.

Omar's tweets are disgusting, and fit into a long-established pattern of behavior on her part. And she has received bipartisan condemnation for them. When you have people like Chelsea Clinton, newly elected Democratic Rep. Max Rose, and Dan Shapiro, who was Ambassador to Israel from 2011-17 under President Obama, condemning her comments, then they are of a serious nature. I hope that the members of the Atlas community, both Democrats and Republicans, can join in that chorus of condemnation.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 02:28:11 PM »

Disgusting as usual, but not surprising.   
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 02:32:16 PM »

The funny thing is that she’s actually right, but instead of being a rare example of a public official who stands up to AIPAC, she instead decided to launch into a trite anti-Semitic tirade. I’m not surprised though, I never expected much of anything from her because she’s simply not a serious person unlike Tlaib or AOC.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2019, 02:33:08 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2019, 02:35:34 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.
We’re not talking about Republicans. We’re talking about Democrats. You’re such a predictable hack.
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2019, 02:35:53 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.

Of course there are anti-Semites in the Republican Party. And you cannot discount people like David Duke. But I still don't think that the comments made by Omar here were, in any way, acceptable. You can criticize Israel, but you shouldn't buy into stereotypes or racist tropes about the Jewish people. Omar's attacks relating to AIPAC fit into a long-established and heinous anti-Semitic practice of assailing Jewish people on an economic basis (i.e. the Rothschild conspiracies).
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2019, 02:36:10 PM »

Its Omar's right to bring it up, but it bothers me how she did her best to downplay her views on Israel during the 2018 campaign yet brings it up quite often now that shes in office.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2019, 02:37:04 PM »

If only AIPAC were half as influential as conspiracy loons like Duke and Omar think...
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2019, 02:40:19 PM »

Omar is just following her fellow comrade Jeremy Corbyn , so no surprise that she would also be Anti-Semitic and a Hard Core Socialist just like Corbyn is.


Democrats should reject going down the Corbyn route and if they do that the chances of having Anti-Semitic Democrats like Omar will go down by a lot.  



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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2019, 02:40:51 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.

Of course there are anti-Semites in the Republican Party. And you cannot discount people like David Duke. But I still don't think that the comments made by Omar here were, in any way, acceptable. You can criticize Israel, but you shouldn't buy into stereotypes or racist tropes about the Jewish people. Omar's attacks relating to AIPAC fit into a long-established and heinous anti-Semitic practice of assailing Jewish people on an economic basis (i.e. the Rothschild conspiracies).

AIPAC is like any other PAC. They donate to who they think will serve their policy positions best and Republicans take their money while tweeting things like this



That was basically dog whistling "Jews are trying to steal the election!"
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2019, 02:43:02 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.

Of course there are anti-Semites in the Republican Party. And you cannot discount people like David Duke. But I still don't think that the comments made by Omar here were, in any way, acceptable. You can criticize Israel, but you shouldn't buy into stereotypes or racist tropes about the Jewish people. Omar's attacks relating to AIPAC fit into a long-established and heinous anti-Semitic practice of assailing Jewish people on an economic basis (i.e. the Rothschild conspiracies).

AIPAC is like any other PAC. They donate to who they think will serve their policy positions best and Republicans take their money while tweeting things like this



That was basically dog whistling "Jews are trying to steal the election!"

I'm very well aware of the conspiracies related to George Soros. Those conspiracies should be roundly and universally condemned. But have you been bothered at all by the comments made by Omar and Tlaib? Are you concerned about Democratic ties with people like Louis Farrakhan? Do you acknowledge that anti-Semitism is present within the Democratic Party, at least to some extent? What about people like Linda Sarsour?
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2019, 02:45:41 PM »

If the money AIPAC raises has no influence on how politicians vote in regards to Israel, why would they bother raising it? AIPAC is legalized bribery and Israel has absolutely bought off our political class.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2019, 02:47:30 PM »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.

Of course there are anti-Semites in the Republican Party. And you cannot discount people like David Duke. But I still don't think that the comments made by Omar here were, in any way, acceptable. You can criticize Israel, but you shouldn't buy into stereotypes or racist tropes about the Jewish people. Omar's attacks relating to AIPAC fit into a long-established and heinous anti-Semitic practice of assailing Jewish people on an economic basis (i.e. the Rothschild conspiracies).

AIPAC is like any other PAC. They donate to who they think will serve their policy positions best and Republicans take their money while tweeting things like this



That was basically dog whistling "Jews are trying to steal the election!"

I'm very well aware of the conspiracies related to George Soros. Those conspiracies should be roundly and universally condemned. But have you been bothered at all by the comments made by Omar and Tlaib? Are you concerned about Democratic ties with people like Louis Farrakhan? Do you acknowledge that anti-Semitism is present within the Democratic Party, at least to some extent? What about people like Linda Sarsour?

Louis Farrakhan basically endorsed Trump, so how is he a Democrat. You are asking all of these questions but they fail to recognize that Republicans have a far bigger problem with Anti-Semitism than Democrats do. Simply criticizing policy is not anti-Semitic, but marching in the streets saying "you will not replace us" is.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2019, 02:47:30 PM »

If the money AIPAC raises has no influence on how politicians vote in regards to Israel, why would they bother raising it? AIPAC is legalized bribery and Israel has absolutely bought off our political class.

I assume that you find nothing wrong with Omar's comments, then? How quickly have I been disappointed...
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2019, 02:49:43 PM »

Both things can be true.
AIPAC is a shady organization which essentially bribes politicians so they always support Likud's hawkish policies.
And Omar seems to be all too eager to use anti-Semitic tropes and stereotypes.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2019, 02:49:57 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2019, 03:52:05 PM by NYGurl »

Republicans have some fairly anti-Semitic people behind them and their President, so the way I see it is that the only thing that keeps them being somewhat pro-Israel is PAC money. It's common sense to know that campaign dollars often dictate policy. I do not see the tweet as being an attack on Jews, but as calling out on Republicans being two faced when it comes to Israel. You have Trump calling Nazi's good people but at the same time Republicans claim to be a friend of Israel.

Of course there are anti-Semites in the Republican Party. And you cannot discount people like David Duke. But I still don't think that the comments made by Omar here were, in any way, acceptable. You can criticize Israel, but you shouldn't buy into stereotypes or racist tropes about the Jewish people. Omar's attacks relating to AIPAC fit into a long-established and heinous anti-Semitic practice of assailing Jewish people on an economic basis (i.e. the Rothschild conspiracies).

AIPAC is like any other PAC. They donate to who they think will serve their policy positions best and Republicans take their money while tweeting things like this



That was basically dog whistling "Jews are trying to steal the election!"


Don't blah, blah, blah me.
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2019, 02:51:35 PM »

Both things can be true.
AIPAC is a shady organization which essentially bribes politicians so they always support Likud's hawkish policies.
And Omar seems to be all too eager to use anti-Semitic tropes and stereotypes.

I'm not defending AIPAC, per say. They can be subject to legitimate criticism, and I'm not fond of PACs in general. But at least you, of all people, recognize that Omar has said vile things about Jewish people.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2019, 03:00:53 PM »

Can you self-fellating hacks PLEASE shut the hell up about Which Party Has More Antisemites??? Whichever party it's coming from, it's not acceptable. And yes, there's a difference between observing that Israel has an unusually powerful policy lobby in the United States and claiming that Those People have wholesale "bought" our political leadership, which is what Omar is doing.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2019, 03:04:30 PM »

The Israel forcefield in washington continues.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2019, 03:06:44 PM »

Ilhan Omar should obviously never have been allowed in.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2019, 03:08:27 PM »

The Israel forcefield in washington continues.

What?
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2019, 03:09:22 PM »

The Israel forcefield in washington continues.

lol, antisemites gonna antisemite
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2019, 03:11:43 PM »

Both things can be true.
AIPAC is a shady organization which essentially bribes politicians so they always support Likud's hawkish policies.
And Omar seems to be all too eager to use anti-Semitic tropes and stereotypes.

I'm not defending AIPAC, per say. They can be subject to legitimate criticism, and I'm not fond of PACs in general. But at least you, of all people, recognize that Omar has said vile things about Jewish people.

Absolutely. Omar's rhetoric is vile. She dresses it up better than David Duke as to give her supporters plausible deniability. Is there a viable primary challenger Democrats could run?
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2019, 03:15:06 PM »

Both things can be true.
AIPAC is a shady organization which essentially bribes politicians so they always support Likud's hawkish policies.
And Omar seems to be all too eager to use anti-Semitic tropes and stereotypes.

I'm not defending AIPAC, per say. They can be subject to legitimate criticism, and I'm not fond of PACs in general. But at least you, of all people, recognize that Omar has said vile things about Jewish people.

Absolutely. Omar's rhetoric is vile. She dresses it up better than David Duke as to give her supporters plausible deniability. Is there a viable primary challenger Democrats could run?

I don't think so. Omar's district has a large Somali-American community (obviously), and she did succeed Keith Ellison, after all. She's not in as much jeopardy in 2020 as Tlaib might be.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2019, 03:21:22 PM »

If only AIPAC were half as influential as conspiracy loons like Duke and Omar think...

You are half right. They are wrongly considered the 800-pound gorilla in the lobbying room, though they are still at least a 400-pound gorilla.
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