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Question: Who is the political winner of the presidential elections among the Atlasian parties?
#1
Federalist Party
 
#2
Labor Party
 
#3
Progressive Union
 
#4
Liberal Party
 
#5
NM - AM
 
#6
Democratic - Republican Party
 
#7
None of the Above
 
#8
Undecided/Not Sure
 
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Author Topic: Cris Survey - October Presidential Elections. Political winner. (Results in HQ)  (Read 1849 times)
Adam Griffin
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E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« on: October 22, 2013, 03:52:32 PM »
« edited: October 22, 2013, 04:07:44 PM by Adam Griffin »

Labor - and I'll sperg as to why.

Being in possession of the Presidency is a stressful and difficult task - thankfully for the Federalists, they still will not know that feeling. When we first took the White House in February, Labor had to begin making considerations that previously were not a part of its MO. Until that point, we were the loud, rapidly-growing and raucous minority, but we had to drive the policy and dialogue in this game once that all changed.

As many have heard me bitch about for quite some time, Labor has been the only actual party that in recent months has articulated clear policy initiatives and stances, and saw that they were enacted. It's certainly a larger responsibility when your party controls the Presidency. Because we no longer control the Presidency, we are no longer tasked with the total responsibility of driving this debate. This will leave us with more time to focus on other endeavors. Personally, I believe there is a clear correlation between Labor's slight decline and its increasing involvement in driving Senate affairs.

In terms of net, we hold just as many seats as we did in the last session - and the seats that we do hold are more unified in terms of ideology and party loyalty than ever before. We won three regional Senate seats against the Federalists' 2 seats - that 3/2 split is something that has not been done since the last great hoorah of the JCP/RPP in October 2011. We came within 4 votes of winning 4 regional Senate seats, something that has never been done. This is f[inks] phenomenal, especially when you consider that a heavily anti-Labor crusade has been led by many outside forces for the past four months (since Rimjob). Obviously, the people spoke as to the caliber of our candidates and - despite picking an independent for President - clearly spoke as to who they want to see in power in the Senate.

Labor's presidential debacles for the most part were expected, if not somewhat engineered. I told Duke quite some time ago that I would be perfectly fine with him being President and was planning on even first preferencing him in between the time that Bacon King dropped out and Dr Cynic entered the race. The first goal in this presidential election was to ensure that only a loyal Laborite received the nomination - if we were to lose, then we were to lose with someone who genuinely cared about the party at the top of the ticket. That was first done with the BK/AG ticket, followed by the Cynic ticket (though the primary vote's outcome was not pushed via PM by either ticket seeking the nomination). In the end, the party spoke.

So in conclusion: Labor started a pro-consolidation dialogue four months ago. Since then, the idea's popularity has skyrocketed from 35% to 65%. We expanded our effective Senate clout and held our overall number of seats. Our party also contributed to the election of a independent conservative - the same conservative who backs similar proposals of consolidation and federal expansion that the Labor Party has been advocating all this time. It's also reassuring to see that in terms of track record and past cooperation, the first conservative elected in more than two years may very well be the most pro-Labor conservative in the game. The People and The Party make a great pair.

A conservative President - bolstered to victory by the Federalists - was just elected with more than 65% of the vote and he broadly shares the Labor Party's mindset on regional consolidation.

Thanks, Atlasia, for rewarding Labor yet again!


(See, Duke: I told you everyone would try to claim your victory as theirs Wink)
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Adam Griffin
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Posts: 20,092
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2013, 04:02:22 PM »

I love Griffin's rationalization of any move in the game as a plus for Labor.

It pretty much is at this point. Only the factors that none of us can control seem to hurt in any substantive way. Tongue


I knew you'd love it. Cheesy
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 04:03:16 PM »


Well, you are God now. Tongue
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Adam Griffin
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Posts: 20,092
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 04:07:15 PM »

Actually, The People's Party won 3 seats in the February elections when Nix, Ben and Oakvale were all reelected. So touché, Adam. Wink

Whoops! I got so carried away there. Tongue What I meant to say was that the 3/2 split (3 LAB/2 FED) was the first time in two years. Silly me.

Is there a scenario out there where the Labor can't win, Griffin? Tongue

I'm sure there is. I'm waiting. I mean, we've certainly lost some recruits lately and all due to lack of effort, but these are not long-term strategic issues.
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Adam Griffin
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Posts: 20,092
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2013, 04:12:56 PM »

And Griffin, is there a scenario where the Labor can't lose?!? Tongue

Of course I'm being hyperbolic, mainly because I know how much you guys can't stand it. Tongue Still, I just like to emphasize at times that the so-called victories against Labor really aren't as black and white as they might appear. People have been saying that Labor was dead in the water since late 2012, that our partisan tactics and my asshole behavior would imminently destroy it all and that a national backlash was just around the corner. If anything, we've been the most stable and consistently influential post-dissolution party. Just saying. Cheesy

In short, though: I really don't feel like we "lost" anything as a result of these past elections, and genuinely feel that the case I made above is justification enough for the contrary to be considered.
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Adam Griffin
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Political Matrix
E: -7.35, S: -6.26

« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2013, 04:21:41 PM »

I want to say that I'm actually happy to have done as well as I did even though I lost. I think Progressive Union overall probably had the best showing, mainly because the Federalists simply smelled blood in the left vote split and took advantage by supporting a candidate who was the closest to them.

Was the Labor Party wrong to nominate me for President as opposed to the other candidates? Could we have done as well and actually made it into the final balloting round with Snowstalker or Kitteh? When I entered the primary it was because I was concerned about who the party was going to nominate.

If I was going to go back and do things differently, I probably wouldn't have entered the primary. I didn't really campaign to win the primary but when I did win, I was obligated to fight the election. All I can say really is that I tried my best when Labor nominated me and the failure isn't with the party. I have been in Atlasia a long time. I was a Senator, I was a VP, I've been President and I was in the cabinet and I am a NE Rep. Was Labor wrong to nominate me based on that? I don't feel that is the case. The primary failure was with me and me alone. I won't see the Labor Party blamed for losing the Presidency. The fault was not with the party, but with me. I entered late, people were probably justifiably skeptical that I should have even been considered a serious candidate and I clearly did not do enough to convince the voters.

You're a noble man, Dr. Cynic, and I don't think our loss can be blamed on you or any candidate. It was written into the annals of history weeks in advance, I feel, and as such, we postured in regards to the Presidential race as best as possible. We nominated a strong Laborite and that was the best that could be expected. The outside forces, however, played out in such a way that I feel we still benefit in the end from the result. I still feel - based on the rambling I did above in regards to driving dialogue and being responsible for the country's affairs - that it turned out to be a blessing in disguise for the party as a whole.
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