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« on: September 17, 2020, 03:32:33 PM »

https://www.pollsmartmr.com/latest-polls-1/2020-presidential

September 2-6
1039 likely voters
MoE: 2.98% among likely voters

N.B. toplines are rounded to the nearest integer here but not for the purposes of calculating margins, hence the discrepancy between the two.

Biden 48%
Trump 46%
Other 6%
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2020, 03:33:35 PM »

RIP BIDEN

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2020, 03:39:26 PM »

I believe this election will be close and will come down to PA on election night. If it really is within 1-2% then Trump probably has a decent chance.
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2020, 03:40:42 PM »

Here comes a five page thread while the high quality Biden +8 polls get two pages. Yipeeeee
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2020, 03:46:33 PM »

RIP BIDEN

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

This is why in general you shouldn't trust polls.
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2020, 03:47:45 PM »

Not to malign this fine poll, but they have Trump winning 65+ cohort 62-34...trash
They have Biden winning 18-29 51-45....trash


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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2020, 03:51:30 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2020, 03:55:15 PM by compucomp »

RCP doesn't even have this poll in their average, and we know they would add Trafalgar, Rasmussen, or Gravis polls within minutes of announcement if they were R favorable.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2020, 03:54:05 PM »

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

They had Beshear winning by 15 points last year. I wouldn't exactly call that "nailed it."
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2020, 03:54:54 PM »

Jesus christ, why must we be bombarded with all of these low quality pollsters. Targoz? Qrsly? What are these outlets?
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2020, 03:56:45 PM »

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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2020, 03:56:50 PM »

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

They had Beshear winning by 15 points last year. I wouldn't exactly call that "nailed it."

Actually they had him winning by 19.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2020, 03:59:07 PM »

Am I allowed to laugh at these polling results?
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2020, 04:02:22 PM »

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

They had Beshear winning by 15 points last year. I wouldn't exactly call that "nailed it."

Actually they had him winning by 19.

But he won, so they "nailed it." /s

Seriously, having Bevin up by 18 would be less of an error than that. Absolute trash poll.
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2020, 04:04:10 PM »

I'd rather this race look like 2012 than 2016. That is, consistently ahead in all of the states and it looking like a horse race at the top.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2020, 04:06:24 PM »

Ah, yes: Targoz.  My favorite Avenger. 
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2020, 04:09:47 PM »

RIP BIDEN

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

Posts like this since they refer to objective data (polling) should be grounds for spam infraction if they're not backed up with evidence, because this is patently false. as other posters have pointed out.
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2020, 04:16:36 PM »

Biden is really collapsing fast now. Even without this poll in the RCP average, he is down to +5.8. I thought it was going to take an October surprise or debate blunder for this to happen.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2020, 04:23:49 PM »

Biden is really collapsing fast now. Even without this poll in the RCP average, he is down to +5.8. I thought it was going to take an October surprise or debate blunder for this to happen.

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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2020, 04:26:11 PM »

#Dat Collapse While Biden is Pulling Ahead in Swing States and Literally All HD Polls, But Okay
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2020, 04:29:15 PM »

Biden is really collapsing fast now. Even without this poll in the RCP average, he is down to +5.8. I thought it was going to take an October surprise or debate blunder for this to happen.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced you are secretly Chris Cillizza.
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2020, 04:31:01 PM »

RIP BIDEN

Targoz nailed it last year during the gubernatorial races.

Can I ask you a question? Do you seriously believe that Trump is going to win and the only valid polls are the ones showing the biggest Trump advantage?
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2020, 04:39:30 PM »

Biden is really collapsing fast now. Even without this poll in the RCP average, he is down to +5.8. I thought it was going to take an October surprise or debate blunder for this to happen.

Never change, Beet.
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2020, 04:41:41 PM »

I actually have to side a bit with Beet on this one.
Although Biden still is favored, the recent changes this past week have been somewhat disturbing.
Now, some of it is statistical noise/deviation, and Beet’s worst case scenario idea is unlikely to happen, but let’s look at the poll averages.

Biden is now at +5.8. I think this number could be lower than what it really is, but we don’t know. What I can say is, this is Trump’s best polling average since May.

Additionally, Trump actually has led in a poll on RCP for the first time since February. Yes, it’s a Rassy, but even Biden was leading in Rassy polls since...well last year.

I think it’s likely this is just noise, but if it doesn’t revert back within two weeks,  I would be extremely concerned.
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« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2020, 05:01:12 PM »

All 5 of the Dump supporters on this forum are sweating like dogs and post low quality polls to feel good about themselves.
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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2020, 05:08:08 PM »

I actually have to side a bit with Beet on this one.
Although Biden still is favored, the recent changes this past week have been somewhat disturbing.
Now, some of it is statistical noise/deviation, and Beet’s worst case scenario idea is unlikely to happen, but let’s look at the poll averages.

Biden is now at +5.8. I think this number could be lower than what it really is, but we don’t know. What I can say is, this is Trump’s best polling average since May.

Additionally, Trump actually has led in a poll on RCP for the first time since February. Yes, it’s a Rassy, but even Biden was leading in Rassy polls since...well last year.

I think it’s likely this is just noise, but if it doesn’t revert back within two weeks,  I would be extremely concerned.

Biden has fluctuated (as is typical with polling) but remained steady. The polls are doing what I said months ago they'd do--the Trump supporters are coming home. I wish people would stop treating this as if Biden's collapsing when he's not, but of course expecting rational logic on Atlas is asking far too much.
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