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muon2
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« on: November 28, 2013, 09:20:47 PM »

I am fascinated by the desire of groups to create even greater political segregation in North America. The Big Sort has created a high degree of geographical polarization within the states of the US, yet apparently that sorting isn't enough. Is there nothing to be gained by a diversity of viewpoints within a state or country?
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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2013, 12:28:50 AM »

I am fascinated by the desire of groups to create even greater political segregation in North America. The Big Sort has created a high degree of geographical polarization within the states of the US, yet apparently that sorting isn't enough. Is there nothing to be gained by a diversity of viewpoints within a state or country?
I am not trying to create political segregation but Vermont is just so liberal.

Look at the surrounding states PVI:

NH: D+1
ME: D+6
MA: D+10
CT: D+7
NY: D+12 or D+13

Look at Vermont PVI:

VT: D+16

In my mind that's all the more reason for them to stay in. 100 years ago VT was one of the most GOP states in the nation. Who's to say where they will be 100 years from now?
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« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2013, 12:02:08 AM »

No way. We need Vermont. If anything, we need more left-wing states. I'd rather Canada give up BC or its Atlantic provinces. Admitting Atlantic Canada as four separate states would be quite good for future Democratic prospects. It wouldn't look too bad on a map either. Wink

Trying to imagine PEI (Pop. 140 000) as a state Tongue

Each of the Atlantic provinces is smaller than MT, and NL has a smaller population than WY. Taken together the Atlantic provinces would fall somewhere between NM and NV in population. It's hard to imagine the US taking them as four states even if there was such a petition.
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