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lfromnj
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« on: May 08, 2024, 07:35:07 PM »
« edited: May 08, 2024, 07:45:57 PM by lfromnj »

FF, had some great one line bangers while also keeping a lot of good effort posts.
Hasn't posted since January and hasn't been online for 3 months.
Can someone explain to me how this isn't effectively an advisory ruling? Like the woman in question was never forced to design any website, let alone a graphic depiction of a gay couple. How on earth is this ripe?

The Court commonly engages in pre-enforcement review of laws that threaten constitutionally protected speech when there is a "credible threat of enforcement." SBA List v. Driehaus. Here, although she was not actually forced to design a website, it is enough that she wanted to do so, and that Colorado has a record of rigorously enforcing its laws against this kind of conduct, that there is a "credible threat" the law would be enforced against her. No party before the Court argued otherwise.
So like if a state passed a law banning emo music from being played a band could just sue outright? They wouldn't need to wait to play a show and be stopped?
You'd need some more facts, but more or less, yes.

To flesh out the analogy: You want to hold an emo show in Colorado, a state that just passed a ban on emo. You could hold the show, be stopped, and then bring your lawsuit. But in this scenario, let's say Colorado had a history of rigorously enforcing its ban on pop punk, and the law lets anyone who knows a show is going to happen file a complaint, and the state refused to say they wouldn't enforce the law against you if you play the show. If all that's true, the Court has said it's okay for you to bring a lawsuit even before the law is enforced against you, because it's all but certain it would be if you actually played the show.

This doesn't work in all cases — if the law only bans "loud emo shows in residential neighborhoods," now it's a little more factual and they might only let you sue later, so that there's a more well-developed factual record (was the show actually loud? did it disrupt the neighborhood? etc). But here, where it's a pretty clear-cut constitutional argument, pre-enforcement review is generally okay.

A good and funny effort post.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2024, 07:36:11 PM »

FF
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2024, 08:39:44 PM »

FF.

I wish I'd gotten around to asking him his view on the King Cove road situation. Would be an interesting answer since it puts his two main political fixations (environmentalism and native sovereignty) into conflict with each other.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2024, 08:46:14 PM »

I'll give him a soft FF.

Why did he leave?
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2024, 12:17:23 AM »

     He scrambled his password and logged off. Sad to say, but we won't see him on here anymore. Major FF.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2024, 01:56:59 AM »

One of the few posters I know hates me.

He never took my Florida insults very well.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2024, 07:32:44 AM »

We parted ways on a sour note over some Discord comments unfortunately, so HP for me but I get why most people are voting FF.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2024, 08:59:01 AM »
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One of the few people who can consistently wash me in a debate. I'm sad to see him go.
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2024, 09:53:35 AM »

Nothing short of a legend
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2024, 10:03:08 AM »

One of the smartest people to ever post on this website
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2024, 10:05:07 PM »

My debates with him about the intended meanings of two of the clauses in Section 1 of the 14th Amendment were unforgettably challenging. He was a gifted debater.
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2024, 02:18:42 AM »

I've mostly had negative interactions with him, but not to the point of having any ill will. Hope he's doing okay.
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