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« on: October 16, 2021, 12:25:47 AM »
« edited: October 16, 2021, 12:32:44 AM by Adams »

By the powers vested in me by President SevenEleven, I hereby charge citizen Louisville Thunder with the crime of Doxxing; under the provisions laid upon by the latest revision of the criminal code of Atlasia; as defined by the Real Life Protections Criminal Code Reform Act. These charges are being re-filed, as they were recently dismissed without prejudice due to a personal matter in State's counsel.

For your convenience and the convenience of the public, here is the definition of the charge being filed:

(n) Doxxing. This offense shall be defined as the disclosal of the personal information of any user of the Atlas Forum either obtained illegally or posted against their will by a citizen of Atlasia.

Similarly, for your convenience and the convenience of the public, here is a rundown of the rules regarding criminal prosecutions in Atlasia, as defined by Sections 4-6 of the Criminal Justice Act of 2016:


The Constitution of Atlasia also governs criminal trials as defined in Article I, Section 10

Quote from: Article I, Section 10 of the Constitution of Atlasia
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall have right to a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury of their peers in the Region wherein the crime shall have been committed, to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation, to be confronted with the witnesses against him, to have a compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel in his defense.

Pursuant to the above, I thus request that the Supreme Court promptly assign a Justice to preside over this trial, empanel a jury of the defendant’s peers as legally required, and to propose a manner I may submit evidence and call witnesses so that the presiding Justice may determine its admissibility.

I have informed the defendant of the charges against him and of his right to legal counsel.

I thank the Court for its time and hope for an efficient and transparent trial.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
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« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2021, 12:47:13 AM »

I am a filing a preliminary motion for this trial to be held in a neutral venue in the Lincoln region. The accused, LouisvilleThunder, is the governor of the Southern region, very well known, and is unlikely to face an impartial jury in his own region. The target of his actions, whose name will be withheld to protect their identity due to the personal information-revealing nature of the crime, was a resident of Frémont and jurors there may also be biased.
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Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
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« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2021, 06:25:50 PM »

The Court has willingly deserted its mission of enforcing the law of Atlasia and protecting its citizens. A majority of justices plainly showed a strong bias towards the accused and their actions in this and the first trial showed they did not want the trial to proceed at all despite the egregious and far-reaching nature of the charges.
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Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2021, 06:48:49 PM »

The trial took so long in part because LT and the court kicked the ball around for weeks with regards to appointing a defense attorney. This decision means that all crime is effectively legal, as a defendant can avoid certain conviction by refusing to answer the charges brought by the state. The entire game is inactive right now —this justification is frankly nonsensical.

This entire ordeal is a travesty of justice and everyone involved should be ashamed of themselves.
The supreme court feels pretty good of itself thank you for your concern.
I am sure you do, since your goal was to prevent a trial from ever happening. Congrats!

A trial did happen but I understand you are having problems with facts as you're trying to put the blame on me.

Don't worry, many people deserve blame. It is true that you never wanted a trial for political reasons and allowed many unethical actions to occur!

Yes this is true. I told you given the charges it was better that you handle it directly with the mods than with a fantasy trial. In the end, I didn't block it from happening.

You have just blocked it from happening. You say it is because there was no "speedy trial," but you allowed the appointment of a defense attorney to drag on for weeks. Then you allowed a sitting justice to represent the defendant! Then you demanded justification for the dismissal of patrial jurors, contrary to convention. In no other court is a defendant allowed to just ignore the charges against him, then cite the resultant delay as a reason the case should be dismissed!

So now it is a crime to ask the accusation why they want to dismiss some jurors?



It's certainly not a reason to let the accused get off scot-free!
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2021, 07:43:05 PM »

For the record,
I just had a civil discussion with Truman and everything is settled. We're just disagreeing on it.

I do appreciate his bluntness and the fact that he has said all these things to my face.

To all the laborites who have been calling for my impeachment on an another channel behind my back. Just to tell you that I know your names.



I will certainly not beg for mercy after 8 years of loyal service to this party. I have saved this party countless times from destruction, . And to all these worthless and ingrateful laborites who are seeking my demise, my vengeance will be terrible.

I will screw up your career.

I'm not calling for your impeachment yet, but this display is clearly not one befitting the holder of one of the highest offices in the game. This is not the space to hammer out personal grievances against your perceived enemies. Whatever your logic was for this decision, it was a bad one and will do harm to this already-dying game in the long run.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2021, 07:49:53 PM »

For the record,
I just had a civil discussion with Truman and everything is settled. We're just disagreeing on it.

I do appreciate his bluntness and the fact that he has said all these things to my face.

To all the laborites who have been calling for my impeachment on an another channel behind my back. Just to tell you that I know your names.



I will certainly not beg for mercy after 8 years of loyal service to this party. I have saved this party countless times from destruction, . And to all these worthless and ingrateful laborites who are seeking my demise, my vengeance will be terrible.

I will screw up your career.

I'm not calling for your impeachment yet, but this display is clearly not one befitting the holder of one of the highest offices in the game. Whatever your logic was for this decision, it was a bad one and will do harm to this already-dying game in the long run.


I have all of the loggs. You and some others have deliberately considered to impeach the supreme court because one court case didn't go your way. This display is clearly not one befitting a member of the senate!

You realize that using the bench to threaten people because they disagreed with your crap decision is even more of an argument for impeachment than there was before, right?
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
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« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2021, 08:06:10 PM »

I won't be using the bench to screw you. Don't worry for that.


Like both of you have been considering impeaching the supreme court because a decision didn't go your way, you don't think your behavior was acceptable either?

Impeachment is a constitutional procedure, unlike whatever it is you're doing.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2021, 08:20:48 PM »

I won't be using the bench to screw you. Don't worry for that.


Like both of you have been considering impeaching the supreme court because a decision didn't go your way, you don't think your behavior was acceptable either?

Impeachment is a constitutional procedure, unlike whatever it is you're doing.

And you don't see a problem with the separation of power to overthorw the judiciary system as soon you don't get your way?



Oh, who is attempting to “overthrow the judiciary”? There has been nothing but criticism offered against you, (unless you consider that to be “overthrowing”). And you don’t see a problem with hurling threats against people from the bench? Interesting.

I'm.not talking "from the bench". I'm talking as an individual regarding that.


You have been calling for impeachment on discord because the supreme court ruled against you. This is a blatant power grab that is a direct violation of the separation of powers.

You are making these threats in a court case thread.

Further, removing one justice by a constitutional process does not amount to "overthrowing the judiciary." No one is immune to consequences if the majority of decision makers follow the correct procedure to find them incompetent.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2021, 08:26:35 PM »

I won't be using the bench to screw you. Don't worry for that.


Like both of you have been considering impeaching the supreme court because a decision didn't go your way, you don't think your behavior was acceptable either?

Impeachment is a constitutional procedure, unlike whatever it is you're doing.

And you don't see a problem with the separation of power to overthorw the judiciary system as soon you don't get your way?



Oh, who is attempting to “overthrow the judiciary”? There has been nothing but criticism offered against you, (unless you consider that to be “overthrowing”). And you don’t see a problem with hurling threats against people from the bench? Interesting.

I'm.not talking "from the bench". I'm talking as an individual regarding that.


You have been calling for impeachment on discord because the supreme court ruled against you. This is a blatant power grab that is a direct violation of the separation of powers.

You are making these threats in a court case thread.

Further, removing one justice by a constitutional process does not amount to "overthrowing the judiciary." No one is immune to consequences if the majority of decision makers follow the correct procedure to find them incompetent.

You are "overthrowing the judiciary" if you advocate to impeach justices if they don't go your way.


Well I was making this comment as a private citizen obviously.


I won't be using the bench to screw you. Don't worry for that.


Like both of you have been considering impeaching the supreme court because a decision didn't go your way, you don't think your behavior was acceptable either?

Impeachment is a constitutional procedure, unlike whatever it is you're doing.

And you don't see a problem with the separation of power to overthorw the judiciary system as soon you don't get your way?



Oh, who is attempting to “overthrow the judiciary”? There has been nothing but criticism offered against you, (unless you consider that to be “overthrowing”). And you don’t see a problem with hurling threats against people from the bench? Interesting.

I'm.not talking "from the bench". I'm talking as an individual regarding that.


You have been calling for impeachment on discord because the supreme court ruled against you. This is a blatant power grab that is a direct violation of the separation of powers.

Simply discussing impeachment is not a violation of anything, but sure.


It is see my answer above.

No one is mad the case (or lack thereof) didn't go their way. The criticism is of your non-transparent and apparently biased decision making process to refuse to even hold a trial, and of your present conduct attacking that follow-up. I am frankly astounded at your behavior and lack of accountability here.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2021, 08:39:53 PM »

Impeachment is a constitutional process. It’s quite breathtaking that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court thinks merely mentioning, (not even introducing an impeachment resolution) a procedure contained in the constitution is somehow akin to overthrowing the judiciary. And I can assure you, impeachment was not brought up because people didn’t like how the case went.
You and crane considered it because the outcome.didn't go your way. You really don't see a problem with tje Independence of justice if justices get removed When they don't rule a certain way?

Again.

We all would have accepted the outcome of the trial. Your "ruling a certain way" has nothing to do with the grievances you have created as a result of your conduct.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2021, 08:42:46 PM »

Impeachment is a constitutional process. It’s quite breathtaking that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court thinks merely mentioning, (not even introducing an impeachment resolution) a procedure contained in the constitution is somehow akin to overthrowing the judiciary. And I can assure you, impeachment was not brought up because people didn’t like how the case went.
You and crane considered it because the outcome.didn't go your way. You really don't see a problem with tje Independence of justice if justices get removed When they don't rule a certain way?

Again.

We all would have accepted the outcome of the trial. Your "ruling a certain way" has nothing to do with the grievances you have created as a result of your conduct.

So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling?

There was no ruling!
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2021, 08:48:35 PM »

Impeachment is a constitutional process. It’s quite breathtaking that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court thinks merely mentioning, (not even introducing an impeachment resolution) a procedure contained in the constitution is somehow akin to overthrowing the judiciary. And I can assure you, impeachment was not brought up because people didn’t like how the case went.
You and crane considered it because the outcome.didn't go your way. You really don't see a problem with tje Independence of justice if justices get removed When they don't rule a certain way?

Again.

We all would have accepted the outcome of the trial. Your "ruling a certain way" has nothing to do with the grievances you have created as a result of your conduct.

So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling?

There was no ruling!
So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling saying the trial was dismissed?

Because of your non-transparent and possibly corrupt methods of dispersing judicial complaints, denying the people of Atlasia a chance to seek justice which has the effect of unilaterally absolving someone of a crime.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2021, 08:56:04 PM »

Impeachment is a constitutional process. It’s quite breathtaking that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court thinks merely mentioning, (not even introducing an impeachment resolution) a procedure contained in the constitution is somehow akin to overthrowing the judiciary. And I can assure you, impeachment was not brought up because people didn’t like how the case went.
You and crane considered it because the outcome.didn't go your way. You really don't see a problem with tje Independence of justice if justices get removed When they don't rule a certain way?

Again.

We all would have accepted the outcome of the trial. Your "ruling a certain way" has nothing to do with the grievances you have created as a result of your conduct.

So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling?

There was no ruling!
So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling saying the trial was dismissed?

Because of your non-transparent and possibly corrupt methods of dispersing judicial complaints, denying the people of Atlasia a chance to seek justice which has the effect of unilaterally absolving someone of a crime.

So you're seeking to overturn the judiciary when this doesn't go your way and as well spreading false conspiracies against me.



It is about your conduct, not the court. You cannot use the powers of the judicial branch to shield yourself from accusations of impropriety.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2021, 08:58:50 PM »

Can we just admit that the prosecution botched the case? The Court simply works with the evidence presented, and the initial proceedings were mishandled by the people in charge of the prosecution. You can't blame Windjammer or the Court for not ruling your way because you presented a weak case and didn't follow through.

The original trial was dismissed without prejudice, which means the state is free to file those charges again, and then the chief justice in essence changed his mind! You cannot say the current decision had anything to do with the initial prosecution.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2021, 09:00:09 PM »

Impeachment is a constitutional process. It’s quite breathtaking that the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court thinks merely mentioning, (not even introducing an impeachment resolution) a procedure contained in the constitution is somehow akin to overthrowing the judiciary. And I can assure you, impeachment was not brought up because people didn’t like how the case went.
You and crane considered it because the outcome.didn't go your way. You really don't see a problem with tje Independence of justice if justices get removed When they don't rule a certain way?

Again.

We all would have accepted the outcome of the trial. Your "ruling a certain way" has nothing to do with the grievances you have created as a result of your conduct.

So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling?

There was no ruling!
So why were you considering an impeachment if that wasn't about the ruling saying the trial was dismissed?

Because of your non-transparent and possibly corrupt methods of dispersing judicial complaints, denying the people of Atlasia a chance to seek justice which has the effect of unilaterally absolving someone of a crime.

So you're seeking to overturn the judiciary when this doesn't go your way and as well spreading false conspiracies against me.



It is about your conduct, not the court. You cannot use the powers of the judicial branch to shield yourself from accusations of impropriety.


So please, explain me my potential corrupt methods of administering this court case. Accusations must be presented with evidences!

Why don't we just save that for the impeachment trial?
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Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
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P

« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2021, 09:01:24 PM »

Instead you aided and abetted the defense in their delay of this trial, eventually threw up your hands and said you couldn't continue the trial because of a delay you helped bring forth, and then issued threats to those who disagreed. I fail to see how anyone can believe you will be impartial going forward.


If you consider a frantic and desperate search to find someone with a pulse capable of serving as defense attorney to be a "deliberate strategy", more power to you.

I think the same problem befell the Justice Department here as well, and led to the ultimate collapse of this case.

Again, the previous case has absolutely no bearing on the present one, which was killed in the crib.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2021, 09:14:54 PM »

Instead you aided and abetted the defense in their delay of this trial, eventually threw up your hands and said you couldn't continue the trial because of a delay you helped bring forth, and then issued threats to those who disagreed. I fail to see how anyone can believe you will be impartial going forward.


If you consider a frantic and desperate search to find someone with a pulse capable of serving as defense attorney to be a "deliberate strategy", more power to you.

I think the same problem befell the Justice Department here as well, and led to the ultimate collapse of this case.

Again, the previous case has absolutely no bearing on the present one, which was killed in the crib.

That is not what he said though. He said, "you aided and abetted the defense....".

Well, he did. As I said, though, the previous case should have had no bearing on whether this case could move forward. This was a frankly baffling, unprecedented decision that is worthy of further review, especially given the Chief Justice's paranoid, seditious, and at times incoherent response to the criticism it elicited.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2021, 09:21:26 PM »

You have just blocked it from happening. You say it is because there was no "speedy trial," but you allowed the appointment of a defense attorney to drag on for weeks. Then you allowed a sitting justice to represent the defendant! Then you demanded justification for the dismissal of patrial jurors, contrary to convention. In no other court is a defendant allowed to just ignore the charges against him, then cite the resultant delay as a reason the case should be dismissed!


During the first trial the prosecution did not provide any justification after challenging two jurors, thereby prolonging voir dire - and the entire trial - for no justifiable reason. The prosecution's three week absence may be forgiven - real life happens, things get in the way - but the ensuing delay of forty-five days before the prosecution even refiled the case? That cannot in good conscience be ignored. It represents a complete disrespect for the constitutional rights of the accused, which exist in our democracy no matter how severe the crimes of which they are accused.

Lol, not FORTY FIVE days! There was so much activity in that time!

Regardless of whether that length of time is unjustifiable (it isn't) you know as well as I do that I couldn't refile this case until I was appointed to do so. Once that happened, we were coming up on another election and other issues which I waited through to make sure this would get the full attention of the court, but it has been filed in a very reasonable amount of time to preserve the subject's constitutional rights.

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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2021, 09:34:22 PM »

Lol, not FORTY FIVE days! There was so much activity in that time!

Huh

old case dismissed: August 31, 2021
new case filed: October 16, 2021

I literally just addressed why I had to wait until now to re-file? Besides, that's a very quick turnaround in real time. I have read about cases re-filed years after a mistrial or dismissal without prejudice. Some of us who play the game have real lives and that should be respected.
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Pro-Israel, anti-Bibi
Crane
Atlas Politician
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,737
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -8.16, S: 3.22

P

« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2021, 09:48:41 PM »

Indeed I tremble for my country when reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep for ever.
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