43rd British Columbia general election

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I'm guessing they didn't say "formerly the Liberal Party" as a prompt for the BCU. All pollsters should be doing this until the next election.

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Will the floodgates open now? Maybe we'll need to wait for some more polls.

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The map came out in April. I remember people freaking out (and rightly so) about that Ladysmith-Oceanside seat. That should be unconstitutional.

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Well, I do think people are generally surprised that awareness was that high to begin with.

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Although that was actually a bigger criticism in 2018 where I read from somebody that the NDP believes it could have won up to five more ridings in that election if they had nominated candidates earlier.

I can believe this. There were winnable seats they didn't get candidates for until the beginning of the campaign! (Kevin Yarde comes to mind)

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Will this finally motiviate the BC Conservatives to run a proper campaign with candidates across the province? If they do, I can see them replacing the Liberals BC United as the main opposition.  After a cycle or two, BC United will be reduced to a rump in the wealthier parts of the Lower mainland, and BC will go back to being polarized. The Conservatives will then shift more to the centre, and will probably mirror the policies of the SoCreds.

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I guess you could say that the future of politics in BC will put the "British" back into "British Columbia"

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If Canada had a Labour Party, would it be with our without the 'u'? In the early 20th century, the u was often dropped by labour candidates, probably for similar reasons as the Australian Labor Party.

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So we've got a Vision Vancouver vs. OneCity nomination battle in Vancouver-Little Mountain? :-P

It won't be good for Vancouver City Council if Boyle wins, since she's the only progressive/non Green member of council. I wonder if a by-election is held, would One City win? The race would be at-large across the city, so it would be a referendum on mayor Sim.

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So we've got a Vision Vancouver vs. OneCity nomination battle in Vancouver-Little Mountain? :-P

It won't be good for Vancouver City Council if Boyle wins, since she's the only progressive/non Green member of council. I wonder if a by-election is held, would One City win? The race would be at-large across the city, so it would be a referendum on mayor Sim.

Another of the many reasons wy electing city councillors At Large is so absurd - the fact that anytime a vacancy occurs on Vancouver city council - it has to be fllled through a byelection across the entire City of Vancouver - ridiculous!!

It is ridiculous, but Vancouverites love it for some reason. They think adopting wards would make council much more parochial.

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I get the argument that replacing one flawed system with another isn't really an improvement (it actually is in this case), but I don't think it's currently legal for Vancouver to adopt any other electoral system. One thing I wish the BC government would do is allow for municipalities to experiment with electoral reform.

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I get the argument that replacing one flawed system with another isn't really an improvement (it actually is in this case), but I don't think it's currently legal for Vancouver to adopt any other electoral system. One thing I wish the BC government would do is allow for municipalities to experiment with electoral reform.

I don't know what you mean by not 'currently legal.' The only thing is that there are two provincial acts on municipal governments, the one for the rest of the province and the one for the city of Vancouver called the Vancouver Charter.

Not talking at all about the park boards, I'm referring to if the city wanted to adopt proportional representation or STV to elect its councillors, it's not allowed to because of provincial legislation. Its only choices are status quo or wards.

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Apparently she became a TERF

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NDP 2012 byelection winner and Chilliwack-Hope MLA from 2012-2013 Gwen O'Mahony is the B.C Conservative nominee for Nanaimo-Lantzville.

Nanaimo is something of an NDP stronghold, but it's also an area that has supported populist right wing types in the past.

She also ran for a federal NDP nomination as recently as 2019. Usually when people swing wildly from left to far right either they are a TERF or they were anti-vaxxers who got radicalized during the pandemic and joined convoy protests etc...

When I first heard the news, I thought it was COVID radicalization, though it seems she was quite pleased with the government's COVID response at the time.

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While reason she swung over is questionable, it does seem covid radicalized quite a few.  I also think modern left is too closely tied with academia and social activists who focus too much on issues many see as peripheral, not bread and butter ones.

The right is just as guilty of this. Case in point.

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Rumours are the government could call an early election.

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Lot of cope from BC United there considering theyre indisputably behind the conservatives

True, but I'm sure the goal of Quitto Maggi/Mainstreet Research with their junk polls is to get B.C United supporters to switch to the B.C Conservatives. Of course, that doesn't mean that it can't be successful.

Quito is a well known Liberal though, I'm not sure why he would want to do this.

What happened in Toronto made sense, I believe he was on the Bailao campaign. I also have a feeling his riding polling influenced the results in Barrie—Springwater—Oro-Medonte (I believe he was on the Lehman campaign) in the 2022 provincial election. But, I'm not sure what his angle in BC is. Maybe he really just hates the NDP?

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I feel like in a BC NDP vs Cons race, the NDP is the establishment choice, though.

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This seems more like US would be had Sanders instead of Biden won Democrat nomination in 2020 and what would establishment GOP who hated Trump do in that case?  Biden was centrist enough easy to support him but if Sanders was chosen I bet they would have run a third party candidate so in a roundabout way I am saying your business types who supported BC Liberals but cannot stand right wing populism are probably sticking with BC United even if that is all they have left.

FWIW, Christy Clark's ex-husband Mark Marrissen who is a dyed in the wool "blue Liberal" old Paul Martin backer has tweeted that if he has to choose between the BC NDP under Eby and the climate change denying crackpots in the BC Conservative party - he is voting NDP

Yeah, I was thinking of that when I thought of the NDP as the establishment party. They're no longer thought of as the socialist hordes, and are probably closer to Biden than Sanders rhetorically.

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And what will they name this new party? Because if it doesn't have "Conservative" in the name, then you can expect it won't do as well.

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United Liberal-Conservative Free Enterprise Social Credit Coalition Party of British Columbia

Rolls off the tongue quite easily.