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WalterWhite
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« on: July 28, 2023, 06:18:27 PM »
« edited: July 28, 2023, 06:24:48 PM by WalterWhite »

I think a lot of this, at least on the part of liberals, is projection, as if Biden didn't win nearly 48% of votes in the state two and a half years ago. Basically this is because liberals (and certainly liberals on this site) dislike and resent Florida. I can think of a handful of reasons for this:

1. Liberals feel fatigued with Florida after two decades of hoping that it would inevitably become Democratic and seeing it stubbornly remain close in election after election. George Bush won Florida by 5.01 percentage points in 2004; if not for that, it would be the only state to have been within five points in each of the last six elections.
2. White liberals do not feel any sympathy, cultural or otherwise, with hispanophones in Florida, and seeing them swing toward Republicans leads liberals to dismiss them as irredeemable.
3. At least on this forum, posters dislike Florida because its appeal is lost on those who have no interest in going outside.

Something that has been asked a few times is why it is that Democrats don't level attacks against Republican parts of the country in the way that Republican rhetoric targets urban areas. Liberals used to do this (I remember the way people talked about Texas twenty years ago), but one of the main reasons they do not know is because they understand the Deep South as the black homeland, meaning that criticism of the people who live here would be morally unacceptable.

Florida, of course, has places that look and feel like lowland Georgia or Alabama or Mississippi, but they make up a small portion of the state and they aren't what you think of when you think of Florida. One can imagine Florida as being made up entirely of white trash and gusanos, groups that it's acceptable to hate. If you're a partisan, it's natural to claim that people you hate will certainly vote Republican, because it shows that you're in the right and Republicans are in the wrong.

Because conceding 30 winnable electoral votes is *definitely* good politics

I sincerely hope Democrats do not fall into a trap of prejudice against Cuban-Americans. Not only would it be immoral, not only would they be conceding the third largest state in the country, the Republicans could use that and paint the Democratic Party as xenophobic/exclusionist. In general, it is a bad idea to make fun of any demographic group unless they are universally hated (serial killers, for instance).
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WalterWhite
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2023, 08:37:56 PM »

I think a lot of this, at least on the part of liberals, is projection, as if Biden didn't win nearly 48% of votes in the state two and a half years ago. Basically this is because liberals (and certainly liberals on this site) dislike and resent Florida. I can think of a handful of reasons for this:

1. Liberals feel fatigued with Florida after two decades of hoping that it would inevitably become Democratic and seeing it stubbornly remain close in election after election. George Bush won Florida by 5.01 percentage points in 2004; if not for that, it would be the only state to have been within five points in each of the last six elections.
2. White liberals do not feel any sympathy, cultural or otherwise, with hispanophones in Florida, and seeing them swing toward Republicans leads liberals to dismiss them as irredeemable.
3. At least on this forum, posters dislike Florida because its appeal is lost on those who have no interest in going outside.

Something that has been asked a few times is why it is that Democrats don't level attacks against Republican parts of the country in the way that Republican rhetoric targets urban areas. Liberals used to do this (I remember the way people talked about Texas twenty years ago), but one of the main reasons they do not know is because they understand the Deep South as the black homeland, meaning that criticism of the people who live here would be morally unacceptable.

Florida, of course, has places that look and feel like lowland Georgia or Alabama or Mississippi, but they make up a small portion of the state and they aren't what you think of when you think of Florida. One can imagine Florida as being made up entirely of white trash and gusanos, groups that it's acceptable to hate. If you're a partisan, it's natural to claim that people you hate will certainly vote Republican, because it shows that you're in the right and Republicans are in the wrong.

Because conceding 30 winnable electoral votes is *definitely* good politics

I sincerely hope Democrats do not fall into a trap of prejudice against Cuban-Americans. Not only would it be immoral, not only would they be conceding the third largest state in the country, the Republicans could use that and paint the Democratic Party as xenophobic/exclusionist. In general, it is a bad idea to make fun of any demographic group unless they are universally hated (serial killers, for instance).

The party that currently having internal conflicts about the benefits black americans recieved from slavery is going to what?

Being two-faced is nothing new in politics.
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