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« on: July 16, 2005, 08:21:45 PM »

Freedom fighter.  Republicans sure hate him for showing that Bush lied with those 16 words in the 2003 State of the Union speech. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2005, 08:12:21 AM »
« Edited: July 17, 2005, 08:14:17 AM by jfern »

Freedom fighter.  Republicans sure hate him for showing that Bush lied with those 16 words in the 2003 State of the Union speech. 

The problem is that he lied about Cheney sending him to Niger.  If he would have been honest about that, I might be much more sypathetic toward him.

You bought into the debunked right-wing talking points, Mr. 940-heads-is-insignificant. You shameless Republicans are the liars.

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Unlike Bush, Wilson told the truth. You Republicans have a problem with the truth.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2005, 10:49:16 AM »

Stop saying JFraud, Mr. 940 heads and 60 tails are not statistically significant.  You are a pathetic partisan hack.  Read more carefully next time.
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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2005, 10:54:23 AM »

Stop saying JFraud, Mr. 940 heads and 60 tails are not statistically significant.  You are a pathetic partisan hack.  Read more carefully next time.

Once asgain, you've demonstrated your ignorance and dishonesty; I merely call the readers attention to it.

You didn't read what you've posted carefully. You claim now 6 months later that 940 heads and 60 tails are not statistically significant. Who is the dishonest one?
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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2005, 11:09:54 AM »

Stop saying JFraud, Mr. 940 heads and 60 tails are not statistically significant.  You are a pathetic partisan hack.  Read more carefully next time.

Once asgain, you've demonstrated your ignorance and dishonesty; I merely call the readers attention to it.

You can't admit that 940 heads and 60 tails are statistically significant, despite a very clear and logical argument. This makes arguing with you pointless, if you will never admit defeat, no matter what the evidence. Unlike you Republicans, I have integrity. If there was a Democratic President with as much curroption, lies, and hypocricity, I would not be mindlessly spinning in their favor. You Republicans continued defense of this disaster running our country sickens me.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2005, 11:11:27 AM »

Once again, JFRAUD has proven his total intellectual dishonesty by trying to hoighjack the tread and resopond to the quoted information.

He did prove one thing; Joe Wilson isn't the most dishonest person in the US.  JFRAUD ranks higher on the list.

That you will not accept that 940 heads and 60 tails is statisitically significant is very relevant. It indictates that you have no intellectual honesty or integrity, and will never admit defeat, no matter how overwhelming the evidence. Instead of admitting defeat you resort to juvenile names.
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jfern
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2005, 12:00:49 PM »

Once again, JFRAUD has proven his total intellectual dishonesty by trying to hoighjack the tread and resopond to the quoted information.

He did prove one thing; Joe Wilson isn't the most dishonest person in the US.  JFRAUD ranks higher on the list.

That you will not accept that 940 heads and 60 tails is statisitically significant is very relevant. It indictates that you have no intellectual honesty or integrity, and will never admit defeat, no matter how overwhelming the evidence. Instead of admitting defeat you resort to juvenile names.

I claim complete and absolute victory[/i].  I've just demonstrated that you  have on this tread:

So you claim that 940 heads and 60 tails are still statistically singificant.

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I was merely pointint out that arguing with you is hopeless. You have no intellectual honesty or integrity as evidence by your continual insistance that I am wrong for saying that 940 heads and 60 tails are statistically signifcant, despite the overwhelming evidence.


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But you admit that you think that 940 heads and 60 tails aren't statistically singificant. Why are you mad that I'm using a name that merely contains what is factually true, in J.J. land?

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The problem is that he lied about Cheney sending him to Niger. If he would have been honest about that, I might be much more sypathetic toward him.
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You bought into the debunked right-wing talking points, Mr. 940-heads-is-insignificant. You shameless Republicans are the liars.

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Here we can see who started the "juvenile" name calling.  I'm more than happy to let the readers read this post and make a determination.  This alone should speak to to your intellectual honesty, or lack thereof,  and it is quite easy to demonstrate it in this thread.  I didn't even start out to try.  :-)
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All you are doing is apoligizing for this treasonous regime that started a war in Iraq based upon lies. You digust me. I would not apoligize for such a curropt Democratic adminstration. You have no integrity or honesty.
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2005, 12:04:49 PM »

Let's try this again, since J.J. seems to have failed to read the last sentence in this paragraph.

Continuing the debunking of the right-wing hack talking points that Joe Wilson said that Cheney sent him.

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They, put it in bold to try to get hacks like J.J.'s attention. However, J.J. has a habit of ignoring any facts that he doesn't like. As Reagan once said, "Facts are stupid things".






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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2005, 12:12:38 PM »


As A18 once said, "facts are stupid things."
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2005, 12:21:30 PM »

My point is that Reagan was quoting John Adams when he said that, so just attributing it to him is dishonest.

Adams said "Facts are stubborn things".
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2005, 02:58:51 PM »


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The bolded part is the problem.  That didn't happen.  Now either Wilson isn't telling the truth, or his wife lied to him.

Look, I've out of my way to say:

1.  The intelligence (The Butler Report) was bad.

2.  Wilson should be commended for revealing bad procedures at the CIA.

The problem comes in when he claims personal knowledge of things he doesn't and we claims the VP started this and it wasn't the VP.  It's his "literary flair" that creates the problem.

Let me give you an example.  If I found that there was a virus planted on the board, set to go off tomorrow, and reported it do Dave, I should be commended for it.  If I then said, "Jfern, planted it," and you didn't, I should be condemned for that.

Prove it. Link?
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2005, 09:57:01 PM »

What failure of intelligence? Bush got his war. From his point of view, there was no failure.
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