your opinion of joseph wilson

[A18]

My point is that Reagan was quoting John Adams when he said that, so just attributing it to him is dishonest.

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My point is that Reagan was quoting John Adams when he said that, so just attributing it to him is dishonest.

Adams said "Facts are stubborn things".

[A18]

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It was a simple misspeak. He certainly knew the correct words.

[J. J.]

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http://mediamatters.org/items/200507140001


The bolded part is the problem.  That didn't happen.  Now either Wilson isn't telling the truth, or his wife lied to him.

Look, I've out of my way to say:

1.  The intelligence (The Butler Report) was bad.

2.  Wilson should be commended for revealing bad procedures at the CIA.

The problem comes in when he claims personal knowledge of things he doesn't and we claims the VP started this and it wasn't the VP.  It's his "literary flair" that creates the problem.

Let me give you an example.  If I found that there was a virus planted on the board, set to go off tomorrow, and reported it do Dave, I should be commended for it.  If I then said, "Jfern, planted it," and you didn't, I should be condemned for that.

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http://mediamatters.org/items/200507140001


The bolded part is the problem.  That didn't happen.  Now either Wilson isn't telling the truth, or his wife lied to him.

Look, I've out of my way to say:

1.  The intelligence (The Butler Report) was bad.

2.  Wilson should be commended for revealing bad procedures at the CIA.

The problem comes in when he claims personal knowledge of things he doesn't and we claims the VP started this and it wasn't the VP.  It's his "literary flair" that creates the problem.

Let me give you an example.  If I found that there was a virus planted on the board, set to go off tomorrow, and reported it do Dave, I should be commended for it.  If I then said, "Jfern, planted it," and you didn't, I should be condemned for that.

Prove it. Link?

[J. J.]

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http://mediamatters.org/items/200507140001

Prove it. Link?

First you have the above link.

Second, here is one from the Weekly Standard.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/337paflu.asp

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/337paflu.asp



And here is one from the arch conservative Washington Post. that sooooo supportive of Richard Nixon (that's sarcasm):

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle


Not exactly "heroic."  That's unfortunate, because there really was a failure of intelligence.

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What failure of intelligence? Bush got his war. From his point of view, there was no failure.

[J. J.]

What failure of intelligence? Bush got his war. From his point of view, there was no failure.

No, the "yellowcake" should not have been in the State of the Union address. 

One of the reasons (but not the only one) FDR went after Hitler first was that the US believed that the Nazis were more advanced in atomic research; they were not, but intelligence thought they were.  It was an intelligence failure there too.

[MODU]

After reading the latest debate on here, all I have to say is . . . I miss Nomo Relies.  *dies laughin*