NY: Trump on Trial!

[mjba257]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

Nice try but two federal judges have signalled that the case is serious.
Try harder next time "Trump hater".

It is a joke case. Ask yourself, why does Mr. Bragg refuse to prosecute violent criminals plaguing his jurisdiction, yet finds enough time to stretch the law to go after his political opponents? Hush money payments? Seriously? How about deal with those teens who keep sucker punching old ladies?

[emailking]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

DeSantis can't legally block an extradition request if it comes from Hochul. He would be violating Florida law if it was properly submitted and he refused to sign off.

[soundchaser]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

Nice try but two federal judges have signalled that the case is serious.
Try harder next time "Trump hater".

It is a joke case. Ask yourself, why does Mr. Bragg refuse to prosecute violent criminals plaguing his jurisdiction, yet finds enough time to stretch the law to go after his political opponents? Hush money payments? Seriously? How about deal with those teens who keep sucker punching old ladies?

I don't think "teens who keep sucker punching old ladies" usually get tried in federal court.

[mjba257]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

Nice try but two federal judges have signalled that the case is serious.
Try harder next time "Trump hater".

Yeah, disagreeing with the strength of the case is one thing (and many people do).  If it's truly that weak, he'll either be acquitted or have a guilty verdict overturned on appeal.  But suggesting that red states band together to keep Trump a fugitive from justice and retaliate for his prosecution?  mjba257 is clearly no Trump hater.

Some things are more important than my personal dislike for one man. This is about fighting back against weaponized lawfare. Here you have an far-left DA from a deep-blue jurisdiction going after his political opponent using a "novel legal theory", all over a frivolous matter that happened eight years ago and only when said opponent declared his intention to run again, did this DA decide to revive the case (which btw, the feds had already declined to prosecute).

This is setting a dangerous precedent that goes far beyond Trump. That's why it's imperative red state governors take a strong stance against this and make it clear that if New York state wants to go down this path, they will be hurt economically.

[emailking]

You sound like Trump's TS feed.

[mjba257]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

Nice try but two federal judges have signalled that the case is serious.
Try harder next time "Trump hater".

It is a joke case. Ask yourself, why does Mr. Bragg refuse to prosecute violent criminals plaguing his jurisdiction, yet finds enough time to stretch the law to go after his political opponents? Hush money payments? Seriously? How about deal with those teens who keep sucker punching old ladies?

I don't think "teens who keep sucker punching old ladies" usually get tried in federal court.

Exactly. That's Mr. Bragg's job. It's his jurisdiction. But he doesn't do that. He lets them walk and surprise surprise, they keep doing it.

[mjba257]

I'm not sure there's anything he can do since the judge has now stated he sees these last minute efforts as disingenuous. I think the judge has to approve the attorneys leaving the case so maybe even that wouldn't work. I think he will keep trying things though because it diverts the prosecution's attention away from the case when it has to respond to all these filings.

This case is a joke and should be thrown out and I say this as somebody who loathes Trump and wishes he'd just kick the bucket already. The fact that this judge hasn't tossed this case proves that he's a hack because any legitimate honest judge would've dismissed it.

Trump's best strategy is to delay. He's not getting a fair trial in Manhattan. He could try and fire his lawyers and if that doesn't work, feign illness. I do wonder what would happen if he just hunkered down in Mar-a-Lago and refused to show up? New York courts have zero jurisdiction over Florida and DeSantis could block any extradition requests.

Perhaps GOP governors could come together and economically boycott New York state until the case is dropped (i.e bar official travel, prohibit trade, ban flights, etc?)

DeSantis can't legally block an extradition request if it comes from Hochul. He would be violating Florida law if it was properly submitted and he refused to sign off.

He can change the law

[Landslide Lyndon]

He can change the law

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puerto_Rico_v._Branstad

[emailking]

He can change the law

Ok you're not being serious.

[mjba257]

He can change the law

Ok you're not being serious.

I'm sorta half-kidding, half-serious.

[brucejoel99]

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[brucejoel99]

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When you are posting a message like that, can you please perhaps post even just a 1 sentence summary of the point this is all supposed to convey?

This way we could have some way of telling if we should really click laboriously on 12 different popup links.

[brucejoel99]

When you are posting a message like that, can you please perhaps post even just a 1 sentence summary of the point this is all supposed to convey?

This way we could have some way of telling if we should really click laboriously on 12 different popup links.

Ok, Merchan let Trump's team file a (poor) motion to recuse Merchan from presiding over the trial because of a purported appearance of impropriety created by his daughter working for a firm that's connected to Democrats, but FYI, the tweets are embedding & readable just fine on this end even when logged out of both Atlas & Twitter, so your end may be glitching.

[GeorgiaModerate]

The tweets embed and read fine for me. 

HOWEVER: as a general suggestion (for everyone), I think embedding more than two tweets (which can actually post up to four with threading) makes the thread hard to read even when they read correctly.  If you are posting more than that, just quote them and provide links; for long threads, just a link to the first tweet in the thread or the unrolled version is sufficient.

[emailking]

Trump using a last minute shady rationale to delay his legal reckoning? Must be a day ending in day.

[emailking]

Trump says he'll be glad to go to jail in this case.

Crooked Judge Juan Merchan is not allowing me to talk, is taking away my First Amendment Rights, he’s got me GAGGED, because he doesn’t want the FACTS behind the Gag to come out. How many Corrupt, Biased, Crooked Joe Biden-“Protection Agency” New York Judges do I have to endure before somebody steps in? I had New York Federal Judge, Lewis Kaplan, with a woman who I never knew, and had nothing to do with, until she sued me for “defamation.” She did not know what day, month, or year the supposed “incident” took place - She knew nothing. Kaplan, a Hillary friend, wouldn’t even let my lawyers put on a proper case, made it two cases instead of one, took away my American Right to defend myself, and was a Crazed Bully as his wife and friends sat in the Courthouse, every day in their little roped off section, and prodded him on in awe. This mysterious lady, who said rape is sexy, got $91 Million Dollars.

Page 2: Then, of course, we have Arthur Engoron, a total lunatic, whack job, who ruled that I should pay an almost $500 Million Dollar “fine” for having done nothing wrong (No Victims, No Damages, Ironclad Disclaimer, ONLY SUCCESS!), in fact, he was the one who committed fraud when he purposely, at the direction of Racist, Corrupt A.G. Letitia James, undervalued Mar-a-Lago at $18 Million Dollars.

Page 3: Now, we have Merchan, who is not allowing me to talk, thereby violating the Law and the Constitution, all at once. It is so bad what he is trying to get away with - How was he even chosen for this case??? I heard he fought like hell to get it, and all of the rest of them also! If this Partisan Hack wants to put me in the “clink” for speaking the open and obvious TRUTH, I will gladly become a Modern Day Nelson Mandela - It will be my GREAT HONOR. We have to Save our Country from these Political Operatives masquerading as Prosecutors and Judges, and I am willing to sacrifice my Freedom for that worthy cause. We are a Failing Nation, but on November 5th, we will become a Great Nation again. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

[Ljube]

If the motion is poorly written, that could be more evidence that Trump's lawyers are incompetent.
He could then fire them with justification.

[emailking]

As I said before, the judge has to approve the lawyers leaving the case, regardless of him firing them, paying them, etc.

From https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-may-fire-legal-team-delay-trial-attorney-1885484

"What happens if Trump fires his lawyers? This can be a difficult one because defendants are entitled to counsel of their choosing, and lawyers are entitled to sufficient time to prepare. But Trump has a lot of lawyers on his team and the Judge has to be prepared for this one. Trump would have to argue a significant issue has developed with his lawyers before the Judge would agree to let them out of the case, and it's going to be difficult to do that with all of them. The Judge could tell him to go ahead with the remaining lawyers, because if Trump does this at the eleventh hour, it's going to look manufactured. But it's still an issue the Judge has to be careful about to avoid problems on appeal, and so far, Judge Merchan has shown himself to be a careful, meticulous jurist."

[Ljube]

As I said before, the judge has to approve the lawyers leaving the case, regardless of him firing them, paying them, etc.

From https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-may-fire-legal-team-delay-trial-attorney-1885484

"What happens if Trump fires his lawyers? This can be a difficult one because defendants are entitled to counsel of their choosing, and lawyers are entitled to sufficient time to prepare. But Trump has a lot of lawyers on his team and the Judge has to be prepared for this one. Trump would have to argue a significant issue has developed with his lawyers before the Judge would agree to let them out of the case, and it's going to be difficult to do that with all of them. The Judge could tell him to go ahead with the remaining lawyers, because if Trump does this at the eleventh hour, it's going to look manufactured. But it's still an issue the Judge has to be careful about to avoid problems on appeal, and so far, Judge Merchan has shown himself to be a careful, meticulous jurist."

The judge cannot force Trump to keep incompetent lawyers filing poorly written motions.

[emailking]

Pretty sure he can and that it would just be an appeal issue, but in any case that's a pretty big if. He has perfectly competent lawyers.

[Ljube]

Pretty sure he can and that it would just be an appeal issue, but in any case that's a pretty big if. He has perfectly competent lawyers.

Not if they are filing poorly written motions, they are not.

[emailking]

Ok but that hasn't happened nor is there any reason to think it will.

[Ljube]

Since his lawyers are probably competent, this must be the plan how to delay the trial for several months.

[emailking]

Guess we'll see 👍🏻