Roy Moore accused of sexual abuse

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Social conservatives typically tend to be false prophets. Not individual values-voters types in Iowa or the south - I mean the social conservative movement's leadership. Folks like Moore, Vander Plaats, Santorum, etc. They mislead good people. And trust me, they've been a problem for decades. Trump at least has led the party to somewhat (begrudgingly) accept LGBT rights.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

If that were true for Moore he would be apologizing to his rape victims.

[Statilius the Epicurean]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

If that were true for Moore he would be apologizing to his rape victims.

He will recant on his deathbed. Chaching!

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

[Inmate Trump]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

Oh, so her accusation is now invalid?

Please.

Also, there isn't just one accuser.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

If that were true for Moore he would be apologizing to his rape victims.

He will recant on his deathbed. Chaching!

There are many Christians who life commendable lives who attempt to live according to the Word of God.  Roy Moore being a hypocrite doesn't change that one iota.  And there are many folks here who have no real idea about what being a Christian really entails.

[Middle-aged Europe]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

Oh, so her accusation is now invalid?

Please.

Also, there isn't just one accuser.

Apparently, Fox News managed to dig up that not Leigh Corfman, but one of the other three Moore accusers had provided services as a sign language interpreter at Hillary Clinton campaign events and they're running it as their main stories right now.

The implication is that a woman who may have voted for Hillary is not credible as a Moore accuser. Of course, most of Fox News may have voted for Trump... so, by their own logic they're not credible as accusers of Moore accusers.

[emailking]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

Under the tenets of Christianity, you have to be both sorry for your actions and ask God for forgiveness, before he will forgive you.

[emailking]

Apparently, Fox News managed to dig up that not Leigh Corfman, but one of the other three Moore accusers had provided services as a sign language interpreter at Hillary Clinton campaign events and they're running it as their main stories right now.

And their headline is rather misleading, "ACCUSER'S CLINTON LINK: Roy Moore accuser worked for Hillary's campaign, reports say" as that seems to imply the 14 year old accuser until you dig into the story.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

Oh, so her accusation is now invalid?

Please.

Also, there isn't just one accuser.

Apparently, Fox News managed to dig up that not Leigh Corfman, but one of the other three Moore accusers had provided services as a sign language interpreter at Hillary Clinton campaign events and they're running it as their main stories right now.

The implication is that a woman who may have voted for Hillary is not credible as a Moore accuser. Of course, most of Fox News may have voted for Trump... so, by their own logic they're not credible as accusers of Moore accusers.

All they are proving is that these ladies didn't "coordinate" this story. These are ladies from different parts of the spectrum.

[JA]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

If you're going to be sexually abused/assaulted by a current or future politician, you better make damn sure you belong to the same political party as them!

[Rookie Yinzer]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

And the victim who was 14 years old was a Donald Trump supporter.

And the story has 30 sources that corroborate the claims. You going to look up all of their political affiliations too?

[Indy Texas]

Roy Moore has to be one of the worst people to have ever run for the Senate in recent history. Dear God this man is evil. No morals whats over and he calls himself a "Christian."

Christianity is about acting evil and God forgiving you anyway.

If that were true for Moore he would be apologizing to his rape victims.

He will recant on his deathbed. Chaching!

There are many Christians who life commendable lives who attempt to live according to the Word of God.  Roy Moore being a hypocrite doesn't change that one iota.  And there are many folks here who have no real idea about what being a Christian really entails.

From what I've observed Christians in public life doing, being a Christian doesn't entail anything but being as mean to LGBT people as possible.

[DrScholl]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

Because everything is a grand scheme created by Hillary Clinton.

[Tartarus Sauce]

But its absurd and offensive to indicate there are actually people who aren't planning on voting for Moore now are swayable to,vote FOR him BECAUSE of this.

Actually, that's not what we're saying. At least, that's not what I'm saying, and I have been one of the people saying this. We leave out the detailed reasoning just because trolling is a lot more effective and entertaining when there is enough ambiguity that it could be interpreted in the worst possible way.

Of course, it is ridiculous to think that Alabamians would actively endorse Moore's alleged predatory behavior and be swayed to vote for him because of his actions. However, what people like me, PNM and IceSpear have been saying is that it cannot be overstated how invested the average Republican voter is in "their guy" and how they will simply refuse to believe any allegations against Moore. In some cases, their vision and judgment may be so clouded by tribalism that they will even try to rationalize Moore's illegal alleged actions by comparing with Democrat scandals or saying it happened too long ago to matter. They are not necessarily amoral people, but tribalism can lead to amoral behavior from otherwise basically moral people. They cannot simply dismiss Moore as a bad candidate without admitting deep faults of their own that go beyond merely backing the wrong horse.

Regarding it increasing his chances of winning, it's not unreasonable to theorize that some relatively apolitical voters (it is a special election, after all) may not have been particularly excited by Moore before, but now that they see the "fake news media" and establishment furiously attacking him from both sides, they will actually turn out to vote for him.

Great post, but the last paragraph is self-contradictory. More apolitical voters, by default, wouldn't be as invested in the anti-media narrative so prominent in Trumpist circles. Granted, it is Alabama so independents will more often than not lean conservative, but the assumption that less politically active voters will swing on the side of Moore due to higher exposure is undermined by the fact that these less active voters won't respond to the anti-media and anti-establishment narrative as strongly as the Trump/alt-right base would.

In fact, based on Moore's past narrow election win to the state Supreme Court and polls showing he's doing incredibly poorly with non-evangelicals (just about the worst a Republican in Alabama can do with non-evangelicals, really), it would actually be a safer bet to make that this hurts him. Less identitarian driven conservatives were already not big fans of him, and they certainly won't be the ones defending him now that these allegations have spilled out into the open. I could see a lot of Strange/Brooks primary voters using this as an excuse to stay home or possibly have some even cross the aisle and vote for Jones.

[publicunofficial]

Conservatives: "I really haven't seen enough evidence, but if it is true It's not a big deal."

Those same conservatives: "You see if you just take out the word "pizza" in this email and replace it with "child slave" ...

[Santander]

Conservatives: "I really haven't seen enough evidence, but if it is true It's not a big deal."

Those same conservatives: "You see if you just take out the word "pizza" in this email and replace it with "child slave" ...

Come on now, I know you can troll better than this.

[Fuzzy Bear]

Conservatives: "I really haven't seen enough evidence, but if it is true It's not a big deal."

Those same conservatives: "You see if you just take out the word "pizza" in this email and replace it with "child slave" ...

Come on now, I know you can troll better than this.

It's the weekend; cut him a break.

[Orthogonian Society Treasurer]

Told 'ya Mo Brooks was the way to go

This really cannot be stated strongly enough. Good lord.

[Shadows]

“Understand something America, they’re the ones that did that dossier, they’re the ones that put that dossier together, and that stuff is so crude,” Bannon said. “A pack of lies. To put a pack of lies about that together…and then to hand it off to the Democrats — his name is Paul Singer and guess what, on Breitbart News and on Breitbart we hold these guys accountable.”

“This is about destroying Roy Moore and you know why they want to destroy Roy Moore? They want to destroy anybody that will step up and speak on your behalf, whether it’s Donald Trump, whether it’s Judge Roy Moore, whether it’s Breitbart News, they’re at full out war,” Bannon said. “You know what my response is? Bring it.”

“You want war, Republican establishment? You’re about to have war,” he later added “Mitch McConnell, you’re like a deer that’s been shot, you’re just going to bleed out brother,” he said. “You’re just going to bleed out. I got you, ok? You’re done.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/11/11/steve-bannon-blasts-gop-establishment-republican-scumbag-paul-singer-for-attacks-on-trump-roy-moore/

Bannon stands with Moore, says Mitch McConnell is a deer who has been shot who will bleed out.

[Fuzzy Bear]

I'm sure some operative whipped this up.  The issue is whether or not Moore is being destroyed with lies or with truths.

[Santander]

I'm sure some operative whipped this up.  The issue is whether or not Moore is being destroyed with lies or with truths.

Did you listen to his interview on Hannity's radio show? At worst, I would say he is being destroyed by mostly-truths due to how much time has passed since the alleged events. I cannot see the allegations being fabrications.

[KingSweden]

The right’s loathing of McConnell, who is busy filling the courts with FedSoc types on their behalf, is hilarious

[Devout Centrist]

The accuser was working for the Hillary campaign. Convenient.

Oh f**k off man