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« Reply #2475 on: February 25, 2022, 02:05:52 AM »

Also, a sidenote: It took us from November 7 last year to February 24 to get to 100 pages. Anyone want to wager how long it'll take us until we've reached 200?

We've had like 60 pages in the last day, so I'd say Saturday or Sunday
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« Reply #2476 on: February 25, 2022, 02:14:32 AM »

Not sure if this true considering it is a UK Gvt source, but if true likely good Anti-Russian Propaganda Material, and if false pretty decent Anti-Russian Propaganda material:'

Konstantin Buynichev, head of RU tactical unit surrendered together with his comrades.
“We didn’t want to kill anyone…”.

https://twitter.com/olex_scherba/status/1496881782750425091
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« Reply #2477 on: February 25, 2022, 02:15:05 AM »


Would love confirmation, but huge if true!
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« Reply #2478 on: February 25, 2022, 02:15:49 AM »


They should launch one into Putin’s office with him in it.
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« Reply #2479 on: February 25, 2022, 02:18:23 AM »



Just remember that if Ukraine attacks Moscow or any Russian city, even legitimate targets, that will silence the protesters and mark them as traitors. Then they'll have their "rally around the flag" effect.
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« Reply #2480 on: February 25, 2022, 02:19:27 AM »


It's not every day that there's a direct attack on a nuclear power from another country. Sure there was the Falkland Islands, India and Pakistan fighting over some glacier, some wars of independence like Algeria, but none of those were really attacks on the mainland of the country.
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« Reply #2481 on: February 25, 2022, 02:21:15 AM »

I have a hard time believing some of these statements from Ukraine. They come across more like something said that is wildly untrue in some of its particulars, and said to boost morale at what might be a trying time for Ukrainian morale, than something actually true. Fog of war, and assymetrical warfare, are for sure being used by both sides for their own purposes.
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« Reply #2482 on: February 25, 2022, 02:22:39 AM »

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« Reply #2483 on: February 25, 2022, 02:24:26 AM »

By the way, Ukranian Americans, as well as Vietnamese Americans are some of the most republican, Conservative, voting blocks in America.


They hate Communism. They hate the Soviet Union. THEY ACTUALLY FLED THE SOVIET UNION. Many of them.

And Putin is nothing more than a Joseph Stalin Wannabe.
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« Reply #2484 on: February 25, 2022, 02:26:02 AM »

Anonymous has claimed responsibility for hacking Russian Gvt websites just a short time ago, as my joking may have referred to very recently here on Atlas,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/25/ukraine-invasion-russia-news/#link-FOVYOBZOEJEFTF7JMDFHXIWMCY
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« Reply #2485 on: February 25, 2022, 02:28:12 AM »

Anonymous has claimed responsibility for hacking Russian Gvt websites just a short time ago, as my joking may have referred to very recently here on Atlas,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/25/ukraine-invasion-russia-news/#link-FOVYOBZOEJEFTF7JMDFHXIWMCY

Get 'em!
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« Reply #2486 on: February 25, 2022, 02:29:42 AM »

Anonymous has claimed responsibility for hacking Russian Gvt websites just a short time ago, as my joking may have referred to very recently here on Atlas,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/25/ukraine-invasion-russia-news/#link-FOVYOBZOEJEFTF7JMDFHXIWMCY
There's a saying: "All's fair in love and war."
Russia engaged in hacking? Ukraine (and pro-Ukrainian groups) can engage in hacking.
Russia can engage in assymetric fighting? Ukraine can engage in assymetric fighting.
Russia's doing things, but Ukraine is responding and in its own inventive ways.
I think it's likely that Ukraine was underestimated. That much can be said with a certain level of confidence.
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« Reply #2487 on: February 25, 2022, 02:31:02 AM »

The plot is pretty clear

Now the left will push for the US to admit a bunch of unwashed unwarrented refugees from Ukraine

Settle them into swing states, and then mint some new ing dem voters

The GOP as stupid as they are, will clap along like seals

But these refugees will be white, so you should be fine with it.


Who cares what color they are?  off we're full

Unless you're willing to bite the bullet and support a two-child policy for native-born Americans, don't give us any sh**t about the country being "full". Admit your real reasons for having these concerns or shut the hell up.


Hold up, why should Americans have to sacrifice to allow NON Americans to gobble up their resources and corrupt our body politic?

When did a right to America become a universal right
While I still strenuously disagree with your views in regards to immigrants, I'm relieved to see you are at least (probably) color-blind about your too-close-to-demagoguic views.
That is all.

Racism is pointless and pathetic. Its not about physical apperences, but values. I would rather live in a nation with no one who looked like me, than a million people who looked like me and had values I detest.

The plot is pretty clear

Now the left will push for the US to admit a bunch of unwashed unwarrented refugees from Ukraine

Settle them into swing states, and then mint some new ing dem voters

The GOP as stupid as they are, will clap along like seals

But these refugees will be white, so you should be fine with it.


Who cares what color they are?  off we're full

Unless you're willing to bite the bullet and support a two-child policy for native-born Americans, don't give us any sh**t about the country being "full". Admit your real reasons for having these concerns or shut the hell up.

Hold up, why should Americans have to sacrifice to allow NON Americans to gobble up their resources and corrupt our body politic?

When did a right to America become a universal right

Explain for us, when did your ancestors arrive here, and how were they different from the Ukrainians who might arrive this year?

Also, once they are here they stop being non-Americans and start being Americans. Hope this helps you understand.

Unwillingly. And for many many more generations than anyone new transplant getting gifted a ride over here

FYI, the Ukranians who are fleeing their country right now are not doing so willingly. They're being forced to flee for their lives. This should be obvious to anyone with two brain cells.

Russia has a population crisis, and Putin isn't looking to murder Ukranians

This isn't Yugoslavia

My God I thought you were clueless before.

I watched video of a Russian jet fighter launching missiles into a Ukranian apartment building earlier today, but tell me more about how he isn't murdering civilians.
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« Reply #2488 on: February 25, 2022, 02:36:15 AM »


Hoping it's true as well.

I'm also hoping that reporting on the Ukranian Ace from earlier today who supposedly has shot down 6 russian fighter jets so far is true. The ghost of Kyiv they're calling him. I think with an aging jet too.....imagine what this guy could've done with an F-35. There would be no more Russian air force.
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« Reply #2489 on: February 25, 2022, 02:39:11 AM »

There's been Russian incursion into Kyiv, although so far just two trucks (which were in turn captured from the Ukrainian military) have been confirmed.
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« Reply #2490 on: February 25, 2022, 02:40:24 AM »


Hoping it's true as well.

I'm also hoping that reporting on the Ukranian Ace from earlier today who supposedly has shot down 6 russian fighter jets so far is true. The ghost of Kyiv they're calling him. I think with an aging jet too.....imagine what this guy could've done with an F-35. There would be no more Russian air force.

Internet sleuths geo-located the base using the video and it does appear to be a match.


 

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« Reply #2491 on: February 25, 2022, 02:44:05 AM »

Call IT support, the simulation broke again.

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« Reply #2492 on: February 25, 2022, 02:46:25 AM »


This is likely going to get merged in with this thread in the coming days, just as an FYI.
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« Reply #2493 on: February 25, 2022, 02:46:32 AM »


My God I thought you were clueless before.

I watched video of a Russian jet fighter launching missiles into a Ukranian apartment building earlier today, but tell me more about how he isn't murdering civilians.

Sure, civilian casualties happen, but here's not there to exterminate a population

Unlike many recent wars like Syria or other Eastern Euro wars

This isnt a hard concept
I think you overstate how common "exterminate the population" wars are in general.
What Putin has said in the weeks leading up to this is proof enough you are correct on narrow grounds - i.e. intention isn't to kill, only to take and then do whatever - but one has to admit that Russian tactics do tend to result in higher than normal civilian casualties.
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« Reply #2494 on: February 25, 2022, 02:47:47 AM »

Ah. Thanks for the heads-up.
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« Reply #2495 on: February 25, 2022, 03:18:00 AM »

Ireland has waived visa requirements for Ukranians.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/visas-for-ukrainian-citizens-entering-ireland-to-be-waived-taoiseach-confirms-1.4811368
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« Reply #2496 on: February 25, 2022, 03:42:52 AM »


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« Reply #2497 on: February 25, 2022, 03:50:58 AM »


manifesting this energy for the brave slav squatters of kyiv and kharkiv
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« Reply #2498 on: February 25, 2022, 04:03:17 AM »
« Edited: February 25, 2022, 04:07:14 AM by Omega21 »

Russian mechanized units starting to enter Kyiv - officially confirmed.




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« Reply #2499 on: February 25, 2022, 04:11:06 AM »
« Edited: February 25, 2022, 04:17:04 AM by Storr »

Giant Russian column on the road to Kherson:



Subtle, my dudes, subtle:

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