Will the Silent Majority vote for Hillary Clinton in November?

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Mind you the silent majority today is different from the one that voted for Richard Nixon. Back in those days they were the white working class. Some on this forum seem to believe that is still the case but they are wrong. The silent majority in this country consists of suburban, working women who are busy balancing between work and family and are disgusted by Trump's rhetoric but perhaps didn't have time to participate in the primaries. It consists of naturalized citizens (and their children) who may not have cared much about American politics until Trump came around. These people combined with the Democratic base constitute a majority. These are the people who have been supporting Hillary in the primary as well. They are not as loud or passionate as the Bernie Bros or the Trumpen Proletariat but they are who decide elections in America. What do you guys think?

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It's not really the "silent majority."  The protesters at Trump rallies will almost all vote for Hillary (and many of them are Hillary protesters).  You don't see Trump supporters crashing Hillary or Bernie Sanders rallies.

Which Democratic candidate is on stage calling Republicans rapists and criminals and threatening to deport millions of conservatives?

I'm not saying these violent protests are right, but a lot of the violence comes from random people who just show up and stir up trouble. They aren't just showing up because they have minor disagreements about policy. Trump has threatened to deport millions of their people, and that is troubling when over 50% of Hispanics know someone who is undocumented, which may include family and friends. Whether or not you think it's accurate or right, Trump comes off as a hateful bigot to many minorities and they perceive him as legitimately threatening their livelihoods.

So, just saying, there are actual, major reasons this is happening. Republicans have no equivalent reasons to protest like this.

Do we just throw out existing laws and rewrite immigration law to say, "If you make it here, you're here for keeps!"?  That's the de facto policy of the Democratic Party now; other than criminals, who would they deport?

I get the point of your post, and it's true at a factual level.  But your point suggests that it's OK to ignore laws, and to ask the government to ignore laws, just because enforcement will impact your lawbreaking friends and family.  That these folks may be angry and fearful and have more, personally, at stake in the immigration issue doesn't make it right that illegal immigrants are in the country and it certainly doesn't justify violence.  Ordinary Americans have to choose between family and law often; they can't just harbor a fugitive because he's a family member.  Trump is not wrong when he suggests that willful failure to enforce our immigration laws, laws which the American People's representatives have not repealed, is a surrendering of a part of America's sovereignty.  Trump asks, "Are we going to have a country?".  He's not wrong in asking the question.

I am an immigrant (naturalized citizen) whose parents came to this country legally and I came to this country when I was a kid. I know many immigrants but I don't know of any who are here illegally. I wouldn't recommend it for anyone in my family to do so because it is a tough life. Of course my family isn't working class and coming to America as an illegal would lead to a reduction in their quality of life.

Anyways, one would think I wouldn't care about the issue of illegal immigration and in a sense I really don't. I do think a country had the right to enforce its immigration laws. America doesn't have to open up its doors to a flood of working class immigrants as there are plenty of people here who also need jobs. That being said it is Trumps nasty rhetoric that makes me oppose him with all my heart. He isn't just against illegal immigrants, he calls them rapists and criminals when the data suggests they are less likely to commit crimes than your average American. He plays to the crowd that is anti immigrant because they think America should be a white country. They don't differentiate between illegal and legal immigration. They want to deport anyone who isn't white. Trump pretends like he doesn't know who david duke is so he can pander to this crowd. That's the difference between him and someone who just wants to enforce immigration laws. Of course most people who are anti-illegal immigration really just want to keep this country white. That's why Trump and his supporters are a bunch of dirty, trashy racists.

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Virginia, as an immigrant, I will say what you are saying is the right thing to do. No country can have open borders. America has every right to decide how many immigrants are allowed to come into the country at any one time. If working class labor is needed in certain fields (agriculture for instance), a pathway should be created to have them come here legally. And the border should be secured and E-verify should be enforced religiously. Cracking down on employers rather than immigrants would much more efficiently end illegal immigration but it wouldn't satisfy the racists.

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Bump. Hillary overperformed her polls in NJ and CA......

[Sbane]

Bump. Hillary overperformed her polls in NJ and CA......

Also Hillary has underpolled with Hispanics and to a lesser extent African Americans compared to the actual votes the entire cycle. If this holds true to the general election, she could overperform her current and future polling.

Her numbers with Whites show her outperforming Obama by 4-8 points. And yet the polls are basically tied.....

[Sbane]

Hopefully the silent majority won't side with Sbane and his blame the rape victim mentality.

Oh great. We have another fascist around.