And people who decide to create a thread about it 
Non undue offence but theres no need to create this. BRTD, king of useless threads at least brought up a valid point for discussion and an ability to refute his view of it. Best to fight your ground in there.
Well, perhaps you would be more exacerbated if you had been spending the last two months combating soundbytes and misrepresentations with long elocutions the way I have been. How many times have I addressed this criticism, and its all for not because people who make every pretext of being smart rational people have already decided to hate the Catholic Church no matter how wrong their ideas about it are.
Welcome to debating religion - it doesn't matter if you've got facts, logic, and reason on your side, you're still wrong no matter how right you are.
No, welcome to being a Catholic which means that a hand-full of hateful people get a pass on sitting around and slamming your faith for being a bunch of boy f**kers who think they run the world and live in the 15th century, while even the more sensible people stand around and say "Well, its true, isn't it?" If this were about being black or Jewish and someone persisted making their claims after I had presented arguments against them, there would be no shortage of people jumping in to defend me right now.
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