2022 French legislatives

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BYE BYE CAZENEUVE!

Down with the PS crocodiles

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Kuddo's for the French Left to unite. You're now my favorite alliance with the best platform for any party globally (or at least one of the best platforms).

https://twitter.com/faureolivier/status/1521441490790227969

It's a historic day and a historic agreement! Faure (PS) mentions 3 may 1936.

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BYE BYE CAZENEUVE!

Down with the PS crocodiles

The departure of senior PS figures is not good news and it undermines the ability to build a functional, pro-European center-left in the future, which is one of the many reasons that I opposed this pact. I'd still support PS, but I hate Melenchon and cheering on the replacement of the center left by Melenchon is just disgusting.

It's good news because the ones who sabotage the left now are left.

Also being a senior figure of a party that gets like 1.5% in presidential election, is something i truly really care about.

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Clear what the preference of the youth is.

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Macron will probably not even win first round, but still have an absolute majority in the second round.

Could as well cancel democracy entirely. What a joke. There is nothing democratic about this system. It's like miles worse than the electoral college, maybe similar to the US senate giving more weight to smaller rural states.

It's even worse with Le Pen. They have as much as Macron in the first round and might not even get like 20 seats lol, but systems like this will more rapidly erode democratic foundations and trust in democracy for sure.

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It looks like Macron's party will get another majority - but does it matter who comes in second? is there such a thing as an "official opposition" in the National Assembly? In other words if NUPES is the clear second largest block with well over 100 seats and the RN and the remains of LR are way back - does that affect the tenor of French politics for the rest of Macron's tenure or does it not really matter?

I think you need a certain amount of seats to have an official fraction (20 or 30 something like that).

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The youth being on the right side.

NUPES is historic and the dream coalition.

This is what "being leftist" is like.

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Yeah Ensemble shouldn't win in the second round.

And to be fair, if i'd live in France and i'd live in a RN vs Ensemble district, i'd likely vote RN in cases where RN can deprive them from a seat. Just to prevent Ensemble from getting a majority, and not because I want RN to win. The priority is to prevent Macron from having a parliament in favour of him.

RN is gonna be a nonplayer anyways, they'll have like 20 to 40 seats.

But i would always vote NUPES when they're on the ballot. NUPES is the best alliance ever (and i'd always in every circumstance vote for them in 1st round). 2nd round is more strategical.

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Yeah Ensemble shouldn't win in the second round.

And to be fair, if i'd live in France and i'd live in a RN vs Ensemble district, i'd likely vote RN in cases where RN can deprive them from a seat. Just to prevent Ensemble from getting a majority, and not because I want RN to win. The priority is to prevent Macron from having a parliament in favour of him.

RN is gonna be a nonplayer anyways, they'll have like 20 to 40 seats.

But i would always vote NUPES when they're on the ballot. NUPES is the best alliance ever (and i'd always in every circumstance vote for them in 1st round). 2nd round is more strategical.

When has leftists voting for facists to own the centerist ever backfired.?. You can grab a complimentary portrait of Thälmann over there.

RN isn't a threat if they only manage to get like 20-40 seats... RN having a few extra seats to deprive Ensemble from majority is better, even if i strongly disagree with RN and think they're disgusting, it's strategically the superior choice.

Macron and his party is a horrible human being and a horrible movement that i don't want to support, especially if i think the democracy in France is failing because of this ridicilous system.

If you don't want me to vote far-right or fascist or nazi... Perhaps make sure there's a leftist option on the ballot. With leftists on the ballot, and I say "true leftists", i would never vote fascist.

But in RN vs Ensemble matchups, RN is the better option because i don't want Ensemble to have an absolute majority because it would mean there would be no opposition to Macron's policies.

Not because i wanna embolden the far-right or support their policies, but mainly because I would vote against Macron.

If you don't want that, perhaps change the system or ensure there's a leftist on the ballot or that anti-Macronistas deserve proper representation in parliament.

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Tell me how this is possible

and still you end up with Ensemble having likely absolute majority (perhaps with the center right).

The congressional district system in the US, senate and electoral college are all much fairer than France's political system.

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map

How many NUPES vs RN runoffs are there?

164 seats seem to be seats where Ensemble didn't advance (but no all of these are NUPES vs RN).

And what is the distribution in NUPES itself (how many EELV, how many PS, how many PCF and how many LFI).

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Super happy about the results!

VICTORY!

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That's like the Nancy Pelosi of France losing?

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Super happy about the results!

VICTORY!

You Prefer Le Pen's Party to Macron?

No i don't. But I didn't want a majority for Macron. I've said my reasoning already. Le Pen could impossibly do well, i mean this was beyond expected for them (unrealistic but it happened), and they still have only 90 seats.

Macron losing was the priority today.

You had to hold your nose down and vote far-right in ENS vs RN match-ups because RN is still weak even after this. ENS is strong anyways, because they have the president and they have an advantage because of the cordon sanitaire and the electoral system. An ENS majority is not representative of the nation.

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If the 'glass ceiling' for the RN is broken in the runoffs, or legislative elections, honestly it's Macron's fault, in good part. Their rhetoric largely contributed to legitimizing the far-right as an acceptable option when up against the left.

Disgusting stuff. I already regret voting for that slimy bastard.

I've said it for basically since 2017 and everyone here was like the biggest fan of Macron.

I should've renamed myself. #NeverMacron.

Glad you are realizing this.

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New update from IFOP: Ensemble+LR/UDI+DD have a narrow 293 seat majority.

That would be very good news. In that case, the NUPES project failed.

That's with LR/UDI included.

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RN wins Seine-et-Marine 6. Yeah, the cordon was somewhat transferred to the radical Left and RN got transfers. lots of transfers, this is a seat Macron won by more than 10 points. D-A probably wins in Essonne.

If the cordon really was transferred to the left, i would never vote centrist again.

If centrists really think the far left is worse than the far-right than they're worse than them.

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In LCI, pundits are already saying that this Parliament will not last, and that Melénchon's speech was the "kick off" speech for a snap legislative election campaign.

snap election. Will Macron do a snap election.

Macron loses an election and will call a snap election,

and..

that is supposed to be democratic.

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Better exit poll for NUPES.



Roussel re-elected.

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And the secret is revealed:

Ipsos statistic: 72% of Round 1 Ensemble voters in NUPES/RN runoffs stayed home, with the rest dividing marginally for NUPES. So All that was left in the electorate was LR/UDI voters, who went RN, and the now outnumbered NUPES.

Anyone who now supports Macron is more evil than the far-right itself.

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At the very least, i'm glad users here in this topic realize the nonsense.

But if i was like "macron bad, macron bad, macron bad" in 2018 nobody took me seriously.

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And the secret is revealed:

Ipsos statistic: 72% of Round 1 Ensemble voters in NUPES/RN runoffs stayed home, with the rest dividing marginally for NUPES. So All that was left in the electorate was LR/UDI voters, who went RN, and the now outnumbered NUPES.

Anyone who now supports Macron is more evil than the far-right itself.

This is just obviously untrue, I don't think there's anything more to be said.

it's proven this night.

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And the secret is revealed:

Ipsos statistic: 72% of Round 1 Ensemble voters in NUPES/RN runoffs stayed home, with the rest dividing marginally for NUPES. So All that was left in the electorate was LR/UDI voters, who went RN, and the now outnumbered NUPES.

source?

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The newspapers start with a shocking start