New York Times; Senator J.D. Vance's opinion piece: "The Math on Ukraine Doesn’t Add Up" (user search)
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Hindsight was 2020
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« on: April 17, 2024, 07:36:00 AM »
« edited: April 17, 2024, 07:46:24 AM by Hindsight was 2020 »

Except he is on a ton of topics. The stuff involving the average age was due to Ukraine not wanting to moblize it’s youth for economic reasons that Vance and OP want to trollishly misinterpret as all of Ukraine’s youth has been wiped out when that’s not true at all and most actually reports from inside Ukraine know this. With the EU pledging more economic support and guarantees of integration post-war they’re able to mobilize more. When it comes to the actual ability to produce and he’s once again lying, we have not reached our max production levels when it comes to aid. Case in point, Zelensky said that Ukraine will need about 25 patriot ad systems to protect their country from Russia airstrikes. The usual suspects came out to call this an impossible request and then Raytheon came out and said they can meet this demand in about little over a year if the orders are placed. Not to mention the fact the the EU is increasing its ammo production at rates trolls like Vance said they couldn’t. Also the worst part here is the last part as all the reports about low Ukrainians moral is about US CUTTING OFF AID! Like a disgusting troll he’s using the fact that Ukraine is bummed out about what he and his party as done as evidence to keep doing it
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2024, 07:49:05 AM »

Except he is on a ton of topics. The stuff involving the average age was due to Ukraine not wanting to moblize it’s youth for economic reasons that Vance and OP want to trollishly misinterpret as all of Ukraine’s youth has been wiped out when that’s not true at all and most actually reports from inside Ukraine know this. With the EU pledging more economic support and guarantees of integration post-war they’re able to mobilize more. Also the worst part here is the last part as all the reports about low Ukrainians moral is about US CUTTING OFF AID! Like a disgusting troll he’s using the fact that Ukraine is bummed out about what he and his party as done as evidence to keep doing it




Thanks for not actually refuting my point but relying on trolling tactics, vatnik.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2024, 12:32:01 PM »

I’m not gonna quote your post Yelnoc for the sake of not taking up the entire page. Having said that I completely disagree with your assessments in quite frankly every point you made. Russia is nowhere near achieving its actual goals which is Ukraine’s complete conquest. Even with all the doom and gloom being pushed out these days Russia’s still just taking over small towns in the Donbas while losing per week close to the equivalent of what we lost in 20 years in Iraq. Which is woefully behind in their goals. Experts like Michael Kofman have done breakdowns on how Russia’s losses can’t be covered by their at max production baring China fully supporting them (which they seem reluctant to do). Furthermore this notion that ending the war will save lives completely ignores the fact that Russia wants to genocide the local Ukrainian populations and have shown the lengths they’re willing to go in places like Bucha and Mariupol. So stopping aid isn’t going to save lives at all. Lastly, that last statement of yours is beyond generous to JD Vance who has shown no reason to be given any. It’s more likely than not that he’s so loudly against aid to become Trump’s vp (who has the world’s most transparent man crush on Putin)
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