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Question: How anti death are you?
#1
0-25
 
#2
26-34
 
#3
35-68
 
#4
69-100
 
#5
other
 
#6
write ins only
 
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Total Voters: 17

Author Topic: How anti death are you?  (Read 2015 times)
DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« on: August 28, 2006, 03:08:20 PM »

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.
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DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2006, 03:23:52 PM »

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

Are you saying that the many thousands who have died are not 'an issue'.
Do you realize how utterly ridiculous that is?
If a pre-emptive attack is ok in your book, then I guess you see nothing wrong with what happened at Pearl Harbor.

If you are so anti-death, you won't support abortion under any circumstance.  There is also quite a differnce in death in defense of freedom such as wars, and the meaningless death of abortion.

This poll gives me a 34, but I am 100% pro-life or anti-death
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DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2006, 03:53:04 PM »

You are not allowed to call yourself a Christian unless you are a total pacifist. Jesus was.

That is so stupid.  I am a die-hard Christian, not being a Christian is support abortion if the mother's life is at stake, that's un-Christian.  Jesus said don't kill, Jesus didn't say don't defend yourself.  In fact, the bible says the world will end in a "war" between good and evil.  It doesn't have an abortion if the mother's life is at stake.
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DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2006, 05:30:54 PM »

OK, you can answer anyway you like but here is my suggestion.

If you are basically against capital punishment give yourself 33 points
if you are against the war in Iraq give yourself 33 points
and (to make it add up to 100) 34 points for being anti legalized abortions
(allowing for reasonable exceptions such as the life of the mother etc etc)

option 3 for me

This is the stupidest poll.  I am 100% pro-life, which pertains to abortion, but not 100% anti-death b/c I support the death penalty.  And the war in Iraq is a defense issue, not a life or death one.

What about pre-natal care and children's healthcare.  Do they deserve to suffer, be born premature/stillborn or with birth defects, and lack simple preventitive care (or catastrophic care should they have a medical emergency), because they commited the sin of being born to poor parents?

Or are you really pro-wedge issue, and couldn't care less about young children (much less adults), and whether they live or die.

There are a few conservatives who are honestly  pro-life - the whole 9 yards.  They believe not only in punishment of those they hate (and are not  fixated on hate over thier reverence for life), but in securing life for all, helping the poor, and if not opposing war having some sort of concept of criteria for a 'just war' in which they consider it a nessisary evil in seeking to save more lives than are lost in the conflict.

But you, you're very screenname shows you as one who is fixated on opposition and hostility, rather than any constructive ideology.

Perhaps you will grow out of it and become an outstanding conservative someday.  Or perhaps you will remain a shallow parody of conservatism like the shrill charlitans who get so much media attention like Coulter or O'Reiley.  It's you're choice really.

My major concern w/this is still the War in Iraq is not a pro-life issue.  My screenname implies that I feel the only way for things to get done in Washington is if the Republicans have enough votes to stop any filibusters.  Right now the Supreme Court has 4 votes locked up that will vote for upholding the SD abortion ban when it comes up (Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, Alito) and 4 votes against (Souter, Breyer, Ginsberg, and Stevens).  Kennedy is a swing vote, if Stevens leaves he needs to replaced w/a staunch conservative.
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downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2006, 06:11:40 PM »

Here's another problem, liberals get higher pro-life scores than conservatives, not even a liberal will tell you that is the way it should turn out
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DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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« Reply #5 on: August 28, 2006, 06:17:44 PM »

I am a die-hard Christian, not being a Christian is support abortion if the mother's life is at stake, that's un-Christian.  Jesus said don't kill, Jesus didn't say don't defend yourself.  In fact, the bible says the world will end in a "war" between good and evil.  It doesn't have an abortion if the mother's life is at stake.

A woman who will die if the pregnancy continues is essentially enacting her right to self-defense if she chooses to have an abortion.

The church teaching of to save the child.  I'm not saying this is a postition that is perfectly valid in supporting, I'm just saying it makes you not truly pro-life.
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downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 09:11:39 AM »

The point is Jesus was a total pacifist in the sense that he did nothing to stop his crucifixion.
As far as the death penalty goes, he was a victim of it.

Obviously you are not a biblical scholar, Jesus didn't stop his crucifixation b/c it was fated that he would die.  He needed to be crucified to safe humnaity, it had nothing to do w/being a pacifist.
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DownWithTheLeft
downwithdaleft
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E: 9.16, S: -3.13

« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 01:12:05 PM »

The point is Jesus was a total pacifist in the sense that he did nothing to stop his crucifixion.

*dies laughin* 

As I recall they laughed at Jesus also.

That they did. 

They laugh at you b/c you aren't really pro-life
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