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« Reply #300 on: March 05, 2016, 10:05:14 PM »

Didn't the last poll on the Dem side in KS have Clinton+10? That's an even bigger polling fail than the Trump +7 one GOP side.
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« Reply #301 on: March 05, 2016, 10:05:22 PM »

Amazing results for Sanders!
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« Reply #302 on: March 05, 2016, 10:07:46 PM »

Sanders got a great result out of Kansas, but a surprisingly poor result out of Nebraska. And of course he is getting destroyed in Louisiana. Not a great night for him.

Lol if that's the best spin you've got...
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« Reply #303 on: March 05, 2016, 10:08:12 PM »

Didn't the last poll on the Dem side in KS have Clinton+10? That's an even bigger polling fail than the Trump +7 one GOP side.
The only Kansas Dem polls we had were awful.
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« Reply #304 on: March 05, 2016, 10:08:36 PM »

Didn't the last poll on the Dem side in KS have Clinton+10? That's an even bigger polling fail than the Trump +7 one GOP side.

Caucus's nearly impossible to poll.
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« Reply #305 on: March 05, 2016, 10:09:02 PM »

Sanders could up his numbers a bit in Nebraska, but these are the kinds of numbers he needs to compete with Clinton. If she performs as well in the Midwest as she has in the South, then of course it's over for him. Overall, though, it seems Sanders is doing pretty well in the Western half of the country.
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« Reply #306 on: March 05, 2016, 10:09:38 PM »

68% in Kansas is an excellent result.

Hopefully Lancaster County will pull his margin in NE around 15 points, which would be great as well.
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« Reply #307 on: March 05, 2016, 10:10:47 PM »

Looks like Sanders could possibly have an Obama 08 type of map in the north west.
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« Reply #308 on: March 05, 2016, 10:11:10 PM »

Sanders got a great result out of Kansas, but a surprisingly poor result out of Nebraska. And of course he is getting destroyed in Louisiana. Not a great night for him.

Lol if that's the best spin you've got...
Spin looks an awful like reality.

If we look at delegates, Sanders had a mediocre night. Sure, he is getting 4 more delegates than he needs in Kansas, but it is looking like he is going to fail to meet his targets in Louisiana and Nebraska to the tune of more than four, thus putting him even more in the hole.
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« Reply #309 on: March 05, 2016, 10:13:40 PM »

Sanders ain't meeting his targets, he's down by a lot in the polls of FL, OH, MI, NC, and IL. This election is looking like the 2008 Obama/Clinton map if you give all the southern and high African-American states to Clinton and give Clinton more of the Midwest like IL and IA. Sanders is only keeping the small, white, rural states in the plains and upper midwest.
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« Reply #310 on: March 05, 2016, 10:14:08 PM »

Sanders got a great result out of Kansas, but a surprisingly poor result out of Nebraska. And of course he is getting destroyed in Louisiana. Not a great night for him.

Lol if that's the best spin you've got...
Spin looks an awful like reality.

If we look at delegates, Sanders had a mediocre night. Sure, he is getting 4 more delegates than he needs in Kansas, but it is looking like he is going to fail to meet his targets in Louisiana and Nebraska to the tune of more than four, thus putting him even more in the hole.
And extrapolating this out to Maine, it looks like they will tie in Delegates, and that is giving him a 15-10 edge in Maine delegate count.
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« Reply #311 on: March 05, 2016, 10:16:04 PM »
« Edited: March 05, 2016, 10:18:57 PM by Ebsy »

Clinton was looking for a tie out of this weekend, with her competing in  three states that she was probably going to lose along with favorable terrain in Louisiana. It looks like she is going to get that delegate tie and deny Sanders momentum going into the more important contest of Michigan.
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« Reply #312 on: March 05, 2016, 10:19:09 PM »

You can argue that Sanders or Clinton had a good night; in reality they both did in different ways. The point is, this will have absolutely no impact on the race.
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« Reply #313 on: March 05, 2016, 10:20:15 PM »

Kansas was an unexpected blow out. He never once led in a poll there, and won by 35 points.
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« Reply #314 on: March 05, 2016, 10:20:22 PM »

Atlas: Bernie Sanders won 2 of 3??? Nope nope should of done better terrible nighttt.
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« Reply #315 on: March 05, 2016, 10:21:29 PM »

Atlas: Bernie Sanders won 2 of 3??? Nope nope should of done better terrible nighttt.
It's understandable that someone that knows so little about the nomination process as you fails understand that this is a race for delegates and not for states.
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« Reply #316 on: March 05, 2016, 10:21:32 PM »

Kansas was an unexpected blow out. He never once led in a poll there, and won by 35 points.

Caucuses always favor the most liberal candidate for Democrats.
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« Reply #317 on: March 05, 2016, 10:21:58 PM »

Atlas: Bernie Sanders won 2 of 3??? Nope nope should of done better terrible nighttt.

Except its true. He was supposed to win the states that he won. '2/3' is a frames the race in an inappropriate statistical way. Sanders needed to hold up better in the plains and close the gap down south. Sure, he won 2 states, but he is no on track to win enough delegates to get the nomination.

No one is arguing Sanders cannot win states, but the fact is he is not winning enough in the states he is favored to win and he is losing far too much in the states he isnt favored in.
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« Reply #318 on: March 05, 2016, 10:22:22 PM »

According to Berniebot logic if Sanders wins Rhode Island and Delaware while Clinton carries California that means a great night for Bernie.
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« Reply #319 on: March 05, 2016, 10:22:34 PM »

Kansas was an unexpected blow out. He never once led in a poll there, and won by 35 points.

Caucuses always favor the most liberal candidate for Democrats.

I suspect Bernie would have won an Iowa primary.
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« Reply #320 on: March 05, 2016, 10:23:10 PM »

Kansas was an unexpected blow out. He never once led in a poll there, and won by 35 points.

There was literally no polls there, besides one that was clearly junk.
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« Reply #321 on: March 05, 2016, 10:23:29 PM »

Anyone else find it dumb that this is being called "Super Saturday?" There were 3 states, a drop in the bucket. The delegate results appear to change nothing; Clinton still has a 200 pledged delegate lead and 600 pledged+superdelegate lead.
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« Reply #322 on: March 05, 2016, 10:23:49 PM »

Atlas: Bernie Sanders won 2 of 3??? Nope nope should of done better terrible nighttt.

What did Sanders really accomplish tonight? Winning a state is not much of an accomplishment, due to the proportional allocation of delegates. It is the size of the win and the amount of delegates at stake. A close win in Nebraska is not the same as a big win in LA.
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« Reply #323 on: March 05, 2016, 10:24:58 PM »

Anyone else find it dumb that this is being called "Super Saturday?" There were 3 states, a drop in the bucket.

Yes, since I first heard this I decided to name it Weaksauce Saturday instead. Wink
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« Reply #324 on: March 05, 2016, 10:25:09 PM »

Atlas: Bernie Sanders won 2 of 3??? Nope nope should of done better terrible nighttt.
It's understandable that someone that knows so little about the nomination process as you fails understand that this is a race for delegates and not for states.

Math is hard.
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