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« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2009, 10:08:45 AM »

why does it matter if someone is in possession of child porn?

They're funding the rings that produce it and give them a reason to create it.

Possession doesn't imply buying said material. You can get that shit free.
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« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2009, 11:33:49 AM »

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family

Fine every person in the courtroom, including myself, $5 for living in a country where a woman had to steal to feed her family. Give the collected fines to the offender.

2.  Robbing a bank

Minimum 10 years for an unarmed, non-violent stick up.  Minimum 25 years for an armed robbery.  Minimum 40 years for an armed robbery with injuries.

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)

First offense -- heavy fine, revocation of license for at least a year, mandatory classes.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)

First offense - heavy fine, loss of license for minimum of 2 years, mandatory AA evaluation (and membership if deemed necessary) and counseling.  Jail time dependent on offenders attitude and cooperation.  Second offense -- loss of license permanently, minimum 10 years in prison.

5.  Possession of Child Pornography

First offense -- mandatory counseling, fine, seizure of computer and related assets.  Jail time dependent on attitude and cooperation.  Second offense, minimum 5 years in prison.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana

Offender only punished if he refuses to share with the court.

7.  1st Degree Rape

Life in prison without the possibility of parole

8.  1st Degree Murder

Life in prison without the possibility of parole

9.  Possession of illegal firearm

First offense -- heavy fine, never allowed to legally own any modern firearm again. Jail time dependent on attitude and cooperation with the court.  If the possession also involved the commission of another crime, then the jail time for that crime would be extended because of the aggravating circumstances.

10.  Treason

Life in prison without the possibility of parole
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« Reply #77 on: October 07, 2009, 05:18:38 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2009, 05:20:28 PM by Lt. Governor PiT »

7.  1st Degree Rape - reimbursement for any income lost, surgery, & counselling.

8.  1st Degree Murder - reimbursement for income lost.
So rich people can rape and kill at will?

     Reimbursement need not be monetary. If the victim or his/her family so demands, the offender could be subjected to forced servitude, with any fruits thereof going directly to the victim or his/her family.
But how many people are going to make Bill Gates Jr cut their grass for the next X number of years versus the number that are going to take the $20million buy out?  It seems to me that this system would benefit the haves over the have nots worse than the current system which is already awfully unbalanced.

     Probably the murderer would not be able to cut $20 million dollars worth of grass in a lifetime. With that in mind, the victim's faimly might choose a $19.5 million dollar payout & have him work on clipping the rest, so they get the money & he does the time for the crime.

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heh?  If somebody sells a secret to the "bad guys" and that secret leads to the death of Americans and they are caught, they should be let go?
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     Well my point was that treason shouldn't exist as an actual crime. If somebody does that, they should be charged with murder of anyone who dies as a result, but not with any crime called treason.
[/quote]Aye, understood.  I still disagree, but I understand better where you are coming from and it makes more sense.

Further on this road, say a Private in the Army tells the bad guys where and when the invasion is going to take place, the good guys find out about it before hand and are forced to use plan B which is a much riskier plan.  150 men end up dying during the execution of plan B, about what the planners expected.  They only expected 20 casualties if they could have used plan A.  What should the Private's punishment be?  What is the name of the crime?
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     Difficult to say. I'm not sure the private could be convicted of anything, since while they expected 20 casualties with plan A, they can't be certain that would have happened. It's possible something would have gone wrong & there would have been 200 deaths, in which case the Private actually saved 50 people by telling the plan.

     Even assuming a more reasonable error, such as 30 deaths instead of 20, you probably wouldn't be able to definitively say how many people died because of him or which people died because of him. The purpose of a libertarian court system is to make restitution to the victim, so punishing someone becomes infeasible if you cannot determine who exactly their victim was. I say probably, because it is possible that plan B used an entirely different division than plan A, in which case all of the deaths under plan B could be attributed to his actions, as the soldiers would not have been in harm's way otherwise.
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« Reply #78 on: October 07, 2009, 08:24:44 PM »

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - cost of the loaf of bread

2.  Robbing a bank - reimbursement for any property damage as well as for lost income of any persons killed or maimed, to their families.

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional) - reimbursement for lost income of any persons killed or maimed.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - same as #3.

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - reimbursement for an amount equal to what any restorative surgery due to physical/sexual abuse & counselling for the children involved would cost, assuming they were the ones who took the pictures. Otherwise nothing.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - nothing.

7.  1st Degree Rape - reimbursement for any income lost, surgery, & counselling.

8.  1st Degree Murder - reimbursement for income lost.

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - nothing.

10.  Treason - nothing.
Wholly f+cking shi&!

PiT, I can only pray you are just spouting off as an intellectual exercise and don't actually believe any of this utterlly ivory towerish drek.
 this is unquestionalbly number one.

May you be incarcerated with Neal Patel gibbering away in the adjoining cell for life.
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« Reply #79 on: October 07, 2009, 11:14:56 PM »

1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family - cost of the loaf of bread

2.  Robbing a bank - reimbursement for any property damage as well as for lost income of any persons killed or maimed, to their families.

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional) - reimbursement for lost income of any persons killed or maimed.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence) - same as #3.

5.  Possession of Child Pornography - reimbursement for an amount equal to what any restorative surgery due to physical/sexual abuse & counselling for the children involved would cost, assuming they were the ones who took the pictures. Otherwise nothing.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana - nothing.

7.  1st Degree Rape - reimbursement for any income lost, surgery, & counselling.

8.  1st Degree Murder - reimbursement for income lost.

9.  Possession of illegal firearm - nothing.

10.  Treason - nothing.
Wholly f+cking shi&!

PiT, I can only pray you are just spouting off as an intellectual exercise and don't actually believe any of this utterlly ivory towerish drek.
 this is unquestionalbly number one.

May you be incarcerated with Neal Patel gibbering away in the adjoining cell for life.

     I think a criminal justice system like this has its pros, but I am not under any illusions about it being perfect or a definitive replacement for the current system. I do think that the notion of criminal justice serving the victim is a laudable goal, though.
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« Reply #80 on: October 08, 2009, 08:40:11 AM »


1.  Woman living in poverty steals a loaf of bread to feed her family

- warning

2.  Robbing a bank

- 2-5 years (only for the robbery, in case that nobody was killed / injured / hold as hostages)

3.  Vehicular Manslaughter (unintentional)

- In most cases i'd only take his licence.

4.  Vehicular manslaughter (under the influence)

- 2-10 years, depends on the circumcances

5.  Possession of Child Pornography

- Heavy fine, possible 2-5 years of prison.

6.  Possession of one ounce marijuana

- nothing

7.  1st Degree Rape

- 15-25 years.

8.  1st Degree Murder

- from 15 years to life

9.  Possession of illegal firearm

- heavy fine

10.  Treason

- from 15 years to life
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