AOC [doesn’t] posts worst result in NY-14 in 25 years

[GoTfan]

https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1331495350914453508

She really only got 64% in a Biden +62 district.

You started this thread about AOC, have more or less lost the argument, now are changing tack t avoid embarrassment. That's just sad.

[GoTfan]

It is extremely telling that some in this thread are choosing to just attack the OP for posting numbers of how much Omar underperformed Biden in her own CD rather than actually addressing the underperformance.

Because GMA tried to make this about AOC, ended up looking the idiot (which his anti-progressive tirades usually result in), then tried to change the argument.

Either way, I don't really take the words of someone who's called us the enemy of the Democratic Party seriously.

[GoTfan]

It's very telling how TopShelfGoal (R-WA) has displayed more vitriol towards the left than he ever did against Trump or any Republican. MacArthur and Alben hate the left too, but at least they come at the right with the same energy. TopShelfGoal (R-WA) literally said he'd support Republican control of the government if it meant the left would be destroyed.

Almost like he's always been a closet Republican all along.

There you go again accusing those who disagree with you of being Republicans. I have never said I support R control of government. If you look at my posting history it is clear I hate Republicans. I did not say a negative word about AOC and the far left until the election (infact I will delete my account if you can find an anti-left post from me prior to election night). But after the election when it became clear that their rhetoric cost us votes and they still were continuing to repeat that rhetoric with the Senate literally hanging in the balance in GA, something needed to be said.

You have built me up as some sort of anti-left boogeyman in your head but I don't have vitriol or hate towards the far left. Frankly I don't really care about the policies Democrats pursue, I only care about winning elections and defeating Republicans. If it was proven that "Murder all kittens" is a policy that would help Democrats win elections, I'd support the DNC adopting "Murdering all kittens" as an official policy let alone "Green new deal". The fact is that some of the rhetoric used by these people is hurting Democratic chances at the ballot box. Esp so in Georgia- the state that is going to decide the Senate control and which doesn't seem to have a lot of patience for these policies.

So forgive me for having no patience for the irresponsible politicians who were still talking about the "Green New Deal", "Defund the police" knowing full well about the upcoming GA elections.

We've got the receipts mate.

[GoTfan]

It's very telling how TopShelfGoal (R-WA) has displayed more vitriol towards the left than he ever did against Trump or any Republican. MacArthur and Alben hate the left too, but at least they come at the right with the same energy. TopShelfGoal (R-WA) literally said he'd support Republican control of the government if it meant the left would be destroyed.

Almost like he's always been a closet Republican all along.

There you go again accusing those who disagree with you of being Republicans. I have never said I support R control of government.

I believe your words speak for themselves:

If it wasn’t TrMacomb Countyump and was Kasich or Cruz running I actually wouldn’t have minded Bernie getting the nominee so that he wMacomb Countyould get blown off the field and take our House majority down with him so that we can get rid of Left Wing Sarah Palin and her Reddit friends.

100%. I wish some wealthy Democratic donor would organize a campaign to primary all these so called "Justice Democrats" and get rid of them in favor of saner people. I want them all out of congress.

I don't need to accuse you of being a Republican. You do a very good job of that yourself.

The point of that post was that a candidate that uses the rhetroic of the justice dems that people like AOC so desperately want would lose anyways (considering how poorly some of the stuff they emphasize polls) so if they lost against someone like Kasich/Romney/Huntsman, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world as it would atleast for the next 4-5 election cycles rid the Democratic Party of the elements that make unpopular statements that cause Democrats to lose votes and elections.

Except the Lincoln Project, who quite recently continued to support Republicans downballot who didn't Openly embrace Trump.

LP supported Democratic candidates, spent tens of millions of dollars in support for Democratic candidates and continue to support Democratic candidates in the Senate control tipping GA January elections. I'll take  support wherever I can get and not impose ridiculous purity tests. I don't care what they have done in the past, if even Voldemort or Darth Vader wanted to support Democrats getting elected by spending 10s of millions of dollars I'd accept their support instead of looking a gifthorse in its mouth.

LP spent 70million+ trying to get Democrats elected at every level. I am not going to say no to that or disavow their support just because some LP staffer tweeted support for an R candidate in some irrelevant downballot race in NH.

Again - nowhere in your posting history did you call Republicans the enemy of America that Deb Fischer or whatever anonymous GOP senator nobody knows outside of Politicalworld is the gift that keeps on giving to the Democrats. It's not about how many posts you've made - it's about the energy behind the posts.

Looking through your posting history, it's generic criticism (the worst I found was you saying ACB was a hack) for the Trump people and vitriol and wishes of total destruction for the left. Therefore, I think it's reasonable to say you have a greater opinion of Republicans than you do the left.

No, you didn't say anything negative about AOC and the far-left before this happened. You always felt a certain way about the left, but never said it until something "needed to be said".

AOC and her crew are not "the left". I have a poor opinion of them because they don't seem to care about how their words and actions affect the odds of Democrats controlling levers of powers. They keep repeat unpopular rhetoric when the senate majority hangs in the balance and don't seem to show any humility from the result of the 2020 election downballot. Brian Schatz and Elizabeth Warren are as left as anyone in the congress and I haven't criticized them. They are good team players and try to avoid rhetoric that polls poorly. Unlike the people I have been criticizing who seem to only care about likes, retweets and being edgelords.

The interesting thing to me is (and this exchange proves it) is that folks like you whenever presented with legitimate criticism of their heroes (like AOC/Omar/Tlaib running far behind Biden in their own districts) resort to attacking the person presenting the criticism rather than actually engaging with the points made on substance. If the rhetoric of these people is costing them votes in their own very blue districts they should have more of a sense of responsibility knowing what they say effects people in much redder districts who don't have the luxury of running 10+ points behind the top of the ticket.

Why don't you and GMA just get a room.

[GoTfan]

So . . .

How ya feelin', MacArthur?