Biden VP news megathread (pg 286 - been selected, announcement could be today)

[Donerail]

Anyway, if you support Biden there's no reason to push for a VP who's going to dramatically undercut him like Warren

How does Warren undercut him polling indiciates that Biden/Warren is the strongest ticket https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1244371267307872256

Polling at this point is mostly a function of name recognition — most people don't know who most of these options are.

Warren has the obvious downsides (old, white, Senator from a state with an R governor temporarily puts you down 1 in the Senate), but the argument for her has been ideological balancing. This isn't clear to me — if she has real ideological differences with Biden, she will either have to continue to contradict him (not what you want) or bury those differences for the GE (which reduces whatever benefit you have from ideological balancing). The Warren people are saying they'd vote for in that poll will likely not be saying the same things in October, which blunts that advantage

[Morning in Atlas]

The chaos agent in me wants it to be Warren.

I thought you wanted Biden to win? Are you back on our side?

Oh, I don't want it to be Warren because of an ideological advantage. I want it to be Warren because it'll trigger the busters.

(I actually agree with you on what she brings to the ticket! That's why I said the whole "chaos agent in me" thing)

[Rookie Yinzer]

I imagine this how the elder CBC members feel about Abrams. They want Harris. He endorsed her and she had more CBC endorsements than Biden when she dropped out.

It’s not going to be Abrams. Clyburn has kept it cordial in public but I know he’s telling Biden that’s not the direction he should go.

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1255194150829355008?s=20

[Ogre Mage]

I imagine this how the elder CBC members feel about Abrams. They want Harris. He endorsed her and she had more CBC endorsements than Biden when she dropped out.

It’s not going to be Abrams. Clyburn has kept it cordial in public but I know he’s telling Biden that’s not the direction he should go.

https://twitter.com/peterjhasson/status/1255194150829355008?s=20

Yikes!  That statement from Rep. Clay is beyond shade, it's flat out tree throwing.

It does make sense the CBC would back one of their own members.

[jacobmeteorite]

Catherine Cortez Masto would also be the first Italian-American to be VP or president, so she’d be breaking barriers for white people too lmao

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Catherine Cortez Masto would also be the first Italian-American to be VP or president, so she’d be breaking barriers for white people too lmao

Exactly lol. CCM is about as Hispanic as Ted Cruz.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

CCM isnt leaving the Senate while Dems are gonna net 50 plus seats and can win in KY, KS, MT and SC, R leaning states. She is in charge of the Senate campaign and Veep will take her duties away from that, its Warren and she wants it

[wbrocks67]

Politico had a discussion with four Republican past presidential campaign managers and hosted by Tim Alberta.  When asked who Biden should choose as VP, they all said Kamala Harris.

JEFF ROE:   He has to have a balanced ticket. I understand the need to have somebody that can be president. The Democrats have to believe that; the independents have to believe it, but I think Kamala Harris is his only choice. If you believe in base politics, it’s the only choice.

BETH HANSEN: I would say it goes a little bit beyond base. What it gets him—and you said this just a second ago, Jeff—it gets you enough of the base without freaking people out. And that’s the balance. I would argue that he can’t pick somebody that it’s just going to be so clear it’s not a good fit for who he is. I mean, he does have a reputation of [chuckles] 150 years in politics, and people know who he is, and they know that he is a pragmatic, middle of the road, blue collar, centrist, populist kind of a leader. And so, picking somebody that’s just asynchronous for that, I think will not help him. But he’s got to get enough of that intensity and that base and something different. I think you do end up with Kamala Harris.

DANNY DIAZ: I think there’s an argument for Harris, but at the same time, there’s an argument for Warren.

TERRY SULLIVAN: If you want to make sure that you don’t raise any super PAC money, there’d be an argument for Warren, because there’s not a single big donor that’s going to give any super PAC money unless they’re like some total communist, because they’re all scared sh**tless of her. But I think that’s why Harris would be—she’s just left of center enough. She checks a lot of boxes. They’ve got to be able to turn that minority vote out. But most importantly, I think she’s just vanilla enough that she doesn’t scare people. And I think their campaign—and Jeff and I will disagree on this—I think their campaign needs to be very careful to not scare middle-of-the-road voters.

TIM ALBERTA: On the eve of the Michigan primary, Biden held this rally at Renaissance High School in Detroit where he had a number of high-profile surrogates come out. You know who stole the show? It wasn’t Cory Booker. It wasn’t Gretchen Whitmer. It wasn’t Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris. And I said to people there, “Wouldn’t it have been interesting if she had been waging her presidential campaign in high school gyms in Detroit instead of coffee shops in Des Moines?” It’s just a completely different vibe for her.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/28/2020-campaign-joe-biden-trump-campaign-manager-191169

Honestly I agree with everything they said. Harris is the clear choice.

[Dr Oz Lost Party!]

Politico had a discussion with four Republican past presidential campaign managers and hosted by Tim Alberta.  When asked who Biden should choose as VP, they all said Kamala Harris.

JEFF ROE:   He has to have a balanced ticket. I understand the need to have somebody that can be president. The Democrats have to believe that; the independents have to believe it, but I think Kamala Harris is his only choice. If you believe in base politics, it’s the only choice.

BETH HANSEN: I would say it goes a little bit beyond base. What it gets him—and you said this just a second ago, Jeff—it gets you enough of the base without freaking people out. And that’s the balance. I would argue that he can’t pick somebody that it’s just going to be so clear it’s not a good fit for who he is. I mean, he does have a reputation of [chuckles] 150 years in politics, and people know who he is, and they know that he is a pragmatic, middle of the road, blue collar, centrist, populist kind of a leader. And so, picking somebody that’s just asynchronous for that, I think will not help him. But he’s got to get enough of that intensity and that base and something different. I think you do end up with Kamala Harris.

DANNY DIAZ: I think there’s an argument for Harris, but at the same time, there’s an argument for Warren.

TERRY SULLIVAN: If you want to make sure that you don’t raise any super PAC money, there’d be an argument for Warren, because there’s not a single big donor that’s going to give any super PAC money unless they’re like some total communist, because they’re all scared sh**tless of her. But I think that’s why Harris would be—she’s just left of center enough. She checks a lot of boxes. They’ve got to be able to turn that minority vote out. But most importantly, I think she’s just vanilla enough that she doesn’t scare people. And I think their campaign—and Jeff and I will disagree on this—I think their campaign needs to be very careful to not scare middle-of-the-road voters.

TIM ALBERTA: On the eve of the Michigan primary, Biden held this rally at Renaissance High School in Detroit where he had a number of high-profile surrogates come out. You know who stole the show? It wasn’t Cory Booker. It wasn’t Gretchen Whitmer. It wasn’t Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris. And I said to people there, “Wouldn’t it have been interesting if she had been waging her presidential campaign in high school gyms in Detroit instead of coffee shops in Des Moines?” It’s just a completely different vibe for her.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/28/2020-campaign-joe-biden-trump-campaign-manager-191169

I agree. A Biden/Harris ticket just feels so balanced, and they have great chemistry on stage. I think Warren would scare off too many middle-of-the-road voters. Yes, she's great for appealing to the progressives, but they're probably going to vote for Biden no matter who he chooses. They know what's at stake.

[Morning in Atlas]

Politico had a discussion with four Republican past presidential campaign managers and hosted by Tim Alberta.  When asked who Biden should choose as VP, they all said Kamala Harris.

JEFF ROE:   He has to have a balanced ticket. I understand the need to have somebody that can be president. The Democrats have to believe that; the independents have to believe it, but I think Kamala Harris is his only choice. If you believe in base politics, it’s the only choice.

BETH HANSEN: I would say it goes a little bit beyond base. What it gets him—and you said this just a second ago, Jeff—it gets you enough of the base without freaking people out. And that’s the balance. I would argue that he can’t pick somebody that it’s just going to be so clear it’s not a good fit for who he is. I mean, he does have a reputation of [chuckles] 150 years in politics, and people know who he is, and they know that he is a pragmatic, middle of the road, blue collar, centrist, populist kind of a leader. And so, picking somebody that’s just asynchronous for that, I think will not help him. But he’s got to get enough of that intensity and that base and something different. I think you do end up with Kamala Harris.

DANNY DIAZ: I think there’s an argument for Harris, but at the same time, there’s an argument for Warren.

TERRY SULLIVAN: If you want to make sure that you don’t raise any super PAC money, there’d be an argument for Warren, because there’s not a single big donor that’s going to give any super PAC money unless they’re like some total communist, because they’re all scared sh**tless of her. But I think that’s why Harris would be—she’s just left of center enough. She checks a lot of boxes. They’ve got to be able to turn that minority vote out. But most importantly, I think she’s just vanilla enough that she doesn’t scare people. And I think their campaign—and Jeff and I will disagree on this—I think their campaign needs to be very careful to not scare middle-of-the-road voters.

TIM ALBERTA: On the eve of the Michigan primary, Biden held this rally at Renaissance High School in Detroit where he had a number of high-profile surrogates come out. You know who stole the show? It wasn’t Cory Booker. It wasn’t Gretchen Whitmer. It wasn’t Joe Biden. It was Kamala Harris. And I said to people there, “Wouldn’t it have been interesting if she had been waging her presidential campaign in high school gyms in Detroit instead of coffee shops in Des Moines?” It’s just a completely different vibe for her.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/04/28/2020-campaign-joe-biden-trump-campaign-manager-191169

I agree. A Biden/Harris ticket just feels so balanced, and they have great chemistry on stage. I think Warren would scare off too many middle-of-the-road voters. Yes, she's great for appealing to the progressives, but they're probably going to vote for Biden no matter who he chooses. They know what's at stake.

They also knew what was at stake in 2016. Not every progressive is going to be like me and enthusiastically vote for Biden because of the candidate, and I'd highly recommend not taking their votes for granted because it's us or Trump.

Alternatively, you could pick a black progressive like Ayanna Pressley and kill two birds with one stone. Hell, if you want to go really deep, Jahana Hayes would also fit the bill! As I've said before, we have a very deep bench of qualified black women, many of whom I would describe as "progressive-appealing".

[Tartarus Sauce]

Catherine Cortez Masto would also be the first Italian-American to be VP or president, so she’d be breaking barriers for white people too lmao

Exactly lol. CCM is about as Hispanic as Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz is actually fluent in Spanish, though.

[ηєω ƒяσηтιєя]

Catherine Cortez Masto would also be the first Italian-American to be VP or president, so she’d be breaking barriers for white people too lmao

Exactly lol. CCM is about as Hispanic as Ted Cruz.

Ted Cruz is actually fluent in Spanish, though.

No, he isn't lol.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Harris, CCM arent gonna be selected, the memo is Klobuchar or Warren. CCM has a Dem Senatorial Campaign to run, and Dems are expanding the map to include KY, SC, MT, AK, TX and KS.  CCM isnt bailing. Harris said that she isnt moving her family out of SF, but she supports the nominee.

Klobuchar and Warren have Hillary Clinton appeal and Biden already said in 2016, when Hilary ran, he would pick Warren. Since there is an urgency to get Pressley and Kennedy, Generation X politicans in the Senate, Warren will he the nominee

[Blue3]

Harris, CCM arent gonna be selected, the memo is Klobuchar or Warren. CCM has a Dem Senatorial Campaign to run, and Dems are expanding the map to include KY, SC, MT, AK, TX and KS.  CCM isnt bailing. Harris said that she isnt moving her family out of SF, but she supports the nominee.

Klobuchar and Warren have Hillary Clinton appeal and Biden already said in 2016, when Hilary ran, he would pick Warren. Since there is an urgency to get Pressley and Kennedy, Generation X politicans in the Senate, Warren will he the nominee

Does Harris even have family?

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Harris, CCM arent gonna be selected, the memo is Klobuchar or Warren. CCM has a Dem Senatorial Campaign to run, and Dems are expanding the map to include KY, SC, MT, AK, TX and KS.  CCM isnt bailing. Harris said that she isnt moving her family out of SF, but she supports the nominee.

Klobuchar and Warren have Hillary Clinton appeal and Biden already said in 2016, when Hilary ran, he would pick Warren. Since there is an urgency to get Pressley and Kennedy, Generation X politicans in the Senate, Warren will he the nominee

Does Harris even have family?

Her hubby lives in SF not DC, where she lives, I am presuming. No, she doesnt have kids. I guess Harris commutes back and forth to SF to DC to be with her hubby. Her hubby is caucasian and he loves it there and doesnt want to leave. I have seen them in major SF news walking side by side in SF, and her hubby talks about SF, he never is seen with her in DC or even talks about it. Her hubby works in SF

[Blue3]

When did she marry? I know she wasn’t married when people first started talking about her in the Obama years. Are there any photos? I don’t think I heard about him at all on the campaign trail in 2019.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

When did she marry? I know she wasn’t married when people first started talking about her in the Obama years. Are there any photos? I don’t think I heard about him at all on the campaign trail in 2019.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/kamala-harris-on-why-she-married-a-white-man-look-i-love-my-husband


I am mistaken,  she does have 2 kids from a previous marriage and happily lives in Brentwood California

[Landslide Lyndon]

When did she marry? I know she wasn’t married when people first started talking about her in the Obama years. Are there any photos? I don’t think I heard about him at all on the campaign trail in 2019.

From wikipedia.

Harris is married to California attorney Douglas Emhoff,[382] who was at one time partner-in-charge at Venable LLP's Los Angeles office.[383] Emhoff is Jewish.[384] They married on August 22, 2014, in Santa Barbara, California.[382] The couple do not have children together, but Harris is stepmother to Cole and Ella, Emhoff's two children from his previous marriage.

[wbrocks67]

When did she marry? I know she wasn’t married when people first started talking about her in the Obama years. Are there any photos? I don’t think I heard about him at all on the campaign trail in 2019.

Her husband, Doug, was very prevalent on the trail in 2019

[MichaelRbn]

Harris, CCM arent gonna be selected, the memo is Klobuchar or Warren. CCM has a Dem Senatorial Campaign to run, and Dems are expanding the map to include KY, SC, MT, AK, TX and KS.  CCM isnt bailing. Harris said that she isnt moving her family out of SF, but she supports the nominee.

Klobuchar and Warren have Hillary Clinton appeal and Biden already said in 2016, when Hilary ran, he would pick Warren. Since there is an urgency to get Pressley and Kennedy, Generation X politicans in the Senate, Warren will he the nominee

Does Harris even have family?

Her hubby lives in SF not DC, where she lives, I am presuming. No, she doesnt have kids. I guess Harris commutes back and forth to SF to DC to be with her hubby. Her hubby is caucasian and he loves it there and doesnt want to leave. I have seen them in major SF news walking side by side in SF, and her hubby talks about SF, he never is seen with her in DC or even talks about it. Her hubby works in SF

Hubby?!  There’s a word I haven’t heard since about 1966!😀

[Meatball Ron]

Since there is an urgency to get Pressley and Kennedy, Generation X politicans in the Senate, Warren will he the nominee

Are you seriously suggesting that Biden will pick Warren as the nominee in order to free up MA Senate seats for Pressley and Kennedy? If you think that the VP selection of the national candidate running to defeat Donald Trump will be driven by one state's party affairs...I've got a Longfellow Bridge to sell you.

[Orser67]

538 did another VP draft, their list was:

Harris
Pressley
Klobuchar
Duckworth
Warren
Cortez Masto
Lujan Grisham
Abrams
Whitmer

[Canis]

538 did another VP draft, their list was:

Harris
Pressley
Klobuchar
Duckworth
Warren
Cortez Masto
Lujan Grisham
Abrams
Whitmer

Id love to see Pressley be the pick but I heavily doubt she will even make the short list

[Sir Mohamed]

538 did another VP draft, their list was:

Harris
Pressley
Klobuchar
Duckworth
Warren
Cortez Masto
Lujan Grisham
Abrams
Whitmer

Id love to see Pressley be the pick but I heavily doubt she will even make the short list

Pressley is way too inexperienced for the VP slot, especially when we're talking about a prez who tuns 80 into his 1st term. Same applies to Abrams.

[Canis]

538 did another VP draft, their list was:

Harris
Pressley
Klobuchar
Duckworth
Warren
Cortez Masto
Lujan Grisham
Abrams
Whitmer

Id love to see Pressley be the pick but I heavily doubt she will even make the short list

Pressley is way too inexperienced for the VP slot, especially when we're talking about a prez who tuns 80 into his 1st term. Same applies to Abrams.

Yup my point exactly