IN: Public Policy Polling: Obama ahead by 2%

[Josh/Devilman88]

New Poll: Indiana President by Public Policy Polling on 2008-10-20

Summary: D: 48%, R: 46%, I: 0%, U: 6%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[Josh/Devilman88]

Don't buy it.

I don't as well. But the last poll to come out for IN was 2 weeks ago. I guess we will have to wait and see if another poll backs it up.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Just look at the party ID of the poll:

D 38%
R 37%
I 25%

That is just TERRIBLE and irresponsible.

Maybe people are feeling very Democratic these days.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Just look at the party ID of the poll:

D 38%
R 37%
I 25%

That is just TERRIBLE and irresponsible.

Thats a better critique of the poll. What should party ID be?

The party ID in the 2004 Exit Poll was:

R 46
D 32
I 22

So R +14, so a 15 point swing to the Democrats? Um no.

You don't get how PPP does their polling do you. They call random people and ask them the question. They ask what Party they are in, and that is what the people said. It isn't like they cherry picked the Democrats out.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Just look at the party ID of the poll:

D 38%
R 37%
I 25%

That is just TERRIBLE and irresponsible.

Thats a better critique of the poll. What should party ID be?

The party ID in the 2004 Exit Poll was:

R 46
D 32
I 22

So R +14, so a 15 point swing to the Democrats? Um no.

You don't get how PPP does their polling do you. They call random people and ask them the question. They ask what Party they are in, and that is what the people said. It isn't like they cherry picked the Democrats out.

But what it does show is that they got a bad sample and more than likely called too many people in Indianapolis.

It maybe that, I'm not sure. But like I said the last poll in IN was 2 weeks ago. Lets wait to see another IN poll.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Also interesting is that among those who they talked to in 04 they Voted 52% for Bush and 38% for Kerry... Bush won by 20 points... so it looks like did oversample Dems..

10% said they didn't vote.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama is not ahead by 2%.  PPP has been oversampling Democrats all year to get these results.  This Democratic pollster then goes around "teasing" their results to build suspense for their polls designed to depress Republicans.  That is what they do as a partisan pollster.

It is partly the GOPs own fault for not having their own fake pollster to push fake results. 

So PPP is a fake pollster because they don't put out results that you like. Please, Hack go away.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Obama is not ahead by 2%.  PPP has been oversampling Democrats all year to get these results.  This Democratic pollster then goes around "teasing" their results to build suspense for their polls designed to depress Republicans.  That is what they do as a partisan pollster.

It is partly the GOPs own fault for not having their own fake pollster to push fake results. 

So PPP is a fake pollster because they don't put out results that you like. Please, Hack go away.

Sure.  I am not a hack.  They are a Democratic pollster.  Not that hard to understand.

It's even more pronounced in NC, which is the only state where they will poll Barr alongside McCain and Obama.

They aren't bias at all, they just don't show result you like so you write them off.