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J. J.
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« Reply #900 on: September 15, 2008, 03:34:53 PM »


he has a God-complex.  it can be fun to watch him spew his garbage if you take the right attitude about it.

Meh. He has a manner that eliminates all amusement value from it, unlike AuH2O for example for those who remember him.

I don't really care if you are amused or not; I do care if the rule works.  So far, it has.
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« Reply #901 on: September 15, 2008, 07:23:33 PM »


he has a God-complex.  it can be fun to watch him spew his garbage if you take the right attitude about it.

Meh. He has a manner that eliminates all amusement value from it, unlike AuH2O for example for those who remember him.

I don't really care if you are amused or not; I do care if the rule works.  So far, it has.

Yes it certainly worked for Obama against your Hillary hackery (and constant insistence Hillary was going to do better than the polls.)
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« Reply #902 on: September 15, 2008, 08:42:43 PM »


he has a God-complex.  it can be fun to watch him spew his garbage if you take the right attitude about it.

Meh. He has a manner that eliminates all amusement value from it, unlike AuH2O for example for those who remember him.

I don't really care if you are amused or not; I do care if the rule works.  So far, it has.

Yes it certainly worked for Obama against your Hillary hackery (and constant insistence Hillary was going to do better than the polls.)

It worked 4 years ago.  It worked 2 years ago. It looks like it's working this year.
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« Reply #903 on: September 15, 2008, 10:47:46 PM »


he has a God-complex.  it can be fun to watch him spew his garbage if you take the right attitude about it.

Meh. He has a manner that eliminates all amusement value from it, unlike AuH2O for example for those who remember him.

I don't really care if you are amused or not; I do care if the rule works.  So far, it has.

Yes it certainly worked for Obama against your Hillary hackery (and constant insistence Hillary was going to do better than the polls.)

It worked 4 years ago.  It worked 2 years ago. It looks like it's working this year.

Yes it did because Hillary didn't win despite your prediction she was underpolling every single time.
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« Reply #904 on: September 16, 2008, 02:06:59 AM »


he has a God-complex.  it can be fun to watch him spew his garbage if you take the right attitude about it.

Meh. He has a manner that eliminates all amusement value from it, unlike AuH2O for example for those who remember him.

I don't really care if you are amused or not; I do care if the rule works.  So far, it has.

Yes it certainly worked for Obama against your Hillary hackery (and constant insistence Hillary was going to do better than the polls.)

It worked 4 years ago.  It worked 2 years ago. It looks like it's working this year.

Yes it did because Hillary didn't win despite your prediction she was underpolling every single time.

Neither rule was violate, though Hilary came close at one point.
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« Reply #905 on: September 16, 2008, 09:11:45 AM »

Not good news for Obama.  It should have closed.

He's only down by 2 points.

It really doesn't matter.

It makes no sense to microanalyze day by day tracking poll trends and then deem such gains or losses as "bad news" for a candidate. Especially when the race is this close.

There should have been a weekend bounce for Obama.

J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

You are flirting dangerously close to violating that one.
 

Go Yankees is Obama!!! Wow.  I had no idea.
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« Reply #906 on: September 16, 2008, 10:38:03 AM »

Not good news for Obama.  It should have closed.

He's only down by 2 points.

It really doesn't matter.

It makes no sense to microanalyze day by day tracking poll trends and then deem such gains or losses as "bad news" for a candidate. Especially when the race is this close.

There should have been a weekend bounce for Obama.

J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

You are flirting dangerously close to violating that one.
 

Go Yankees is Obama!!! Wow.  I had no idea.

Same holds true for the supports.  It's gotten close a few times.
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« Reply #907 on: September 16, 2008, 12:01:50 PM »

Tuesday -  September 16, 2008:

McCain  - 47% (nc)
Obama  - 46% (+1)
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« Reply #908 on: September 16, 2008, 12:06:57 PM »

Not good news for Obama.  It should have closed.

He's only down by 2 points.

It really doesn't matter.

It makes no sense to microanalyze day by day tracking poll trends and then deem such gains or losses as "bad news" for a candidate. Especially when the race is this close.

There should have been a weekend bounce for Obama.

J. J.'s First Rule of Elections:  "If a candidate that say something like 'I don't look at the polls,' or 'The only polls that matter are the ones on Election Day,' that candidate will lose."

You are flirting dangerously close to violating that one.
 

Go Yankees is Obama!!! Wow.  I had no idea.

Same holds true for the supports.  It's gotten close a few times.
If the rule applies across the board to all supporters, then it really is a dumb rule... if only for the fact that it gets violated ALL THE TIME by nearly every campaign at some point.

If you limit it to official parts of the campaign itself, then at least it COULD  be relevant.
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« Reply #909 on: September 16, 2008, 12:08:35 PM »

So Obama gained one in Rasmussen and Gallup... my question is... how pro-Obama were today's samples in each tracking poll? +1 Obama?
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« Reply #910 on: September 16, 2008, 12:09:16 PM »

Also, this is not good for McCain. McCain should be up by more.
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« Reply #911 on: September 16, 2008, 12:09:31 PM »

Tuesday -  September 16, 2008:

McCain  - 47% (nc)
Obama  - 46% (+1)

Damn it's the end of Obama!
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« Reply #912 on: September 16, 2008, 12:09:54 PM »

Has to do with the economy, probably.
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« Reply #913 on: September 16, 2008, 12:10:11 PM »

So Obama gained one in Rasmussen and Gallup... my question is... how pro-Obama were today's samples in each tracking poll? +1 Obama?

I was wondering that myself since we seem to have lost the thread of estimates. Reading back through this thread, someone said that Friday's sample, which dropped off, must have been reasonably good for McCain--like M +4. Which means McCain could have been polling consistently +1 since then to explain both the +2s afterward and the change today. I know that is not good math, though.
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« Reply #914 on: September 16, 2008, 12:15:23 PM »

Also, this is not good for McCain. McCain should be up by more.

He should? Sen. McCain should be ahead by more? But this is a Democratic year, or at least that is what everyone keeps on saying. The fact is, this isn't good for Sen. Obama, he should be up by at least 5%.
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« Reply #915 on: September 16, 2008, 12:16:08 PM »

Also, this is not good for McCain. McCain should be up by more.

He should? Sen. McCain should be ahead by more? But this is a Democratic year, or at least that is what everyone keeps on saying. The fact is, this isn't good for Sen. Obama, he should be up by at least 5%.

*whoosh*

That's the sound of the point of that post going right over your head.
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« Reply #916 on: September 16, 2008, 12:16:21 PM »

Also, this is not good for McCain. McCain should be up by more.

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« Reply #917 on: September 16, 2008, 12:47:44 PM »


I concur.
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« Reply #918 on: September 16, 2008, 12:55:18 PM »

Also, this is not good for McCain. McCain should be up by more.

He should? Sen. McCain should be ahead by more? But this is a Democratic year, or at least that is what everyone keeps on saying. The fact is, this isn't good for Sen. Obama, he should be up by at least 5%.

*whoosh*

That's the sound of the point of that post going right over your head.

Weekend bounce on Gallup.  He should have gained some and I was expecting it.  Not by 5%, but there have been some movement.
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« Reply #919 on: September 16, 2008, 01:19:32 PM »


The key is figuring out whether this is only a one-day spike, and not a continuation of the gradual movement we've observed since last Thursday.  Like I said in the other thread.
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« Reply #920 on: September 16, 2008, 01:22:05 PM »

This thing is going to settle back into a modest Obama lead that's only going to get worse for McCain over the course of the debates. 
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« Reply #921 on: September 16, 2008, 01:39:49 PM »

This thing is going to settle back into a modest Obama lead that's only going to get worse for McCain over the course of the debates. 

More than a bit of wishful thinking. 
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« Reply #922 on: September 16, 2008, 02:54:51 PM »

This thing is going to settle back into a modest Obama lead that's only going to get worse for McCain over the course of the debates. 

More than a bit of wishful thinking. 

It will depend on how well each candidate does in the debate.
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« Reply #923 on: September 16, 2008, 03:00:59 PM »

Obama is finished.
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« Reply #924 on: September 16, 2008, 03:01:40 PM »

McCain's in trouble now!  The trend is there!  THE TREND
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