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Oryxslayer
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« on: December 09, 2022, 11:44:46 AM »



Bizarrely wouldn't polling like this suggest she actually potentially draws more Republicans or Republican-leaning independents than she would Democrats in an independent bid?

These numbers (if accurate) suggest she has no path in a three-way race and at least on the surface would take more right-leaning votes than left-leaning votes. Especially if AZ Republican primary voters produce another superstar nominee who will be prone to losing some Republican voters, I'm not yet seeing how she has boxed out Gallego/the left like many are saying she has unless she is able to drastically turn around these numbers in a way that improves her standing with independents while paradoxically losing Republican support.

I'm going to state what appears to be the elephant in the room to me, but everyone else has collective memory loss. Does nobody remember the tale of Jeff Flake?

Sinema seems to be unintentionally walking her predecessors path despite being from a different party and holding different ideals. Both seem to think/have thought that bipartisanship is their path to reelection in a swing state. They know the McCain-ites, the compassionate suburban Mormans, and other R turning D demos are key.

Both however don't know haw to be bipartisan. Flake was a phony who spoke publicly against Trump but fell in line when voting time came, pissing off the desert radical Goser-types with his speachs but won only tiny amounts of Democratic affinity since he still was and behaved like a Republican. Sinema similarly publicly gets into spats prominent Dems and progressives, plummeting her approval among Dems. But it doesn't earn much GOP support cause she is still Sinema, a Liberal "alphabet" woman who at times looks like their stereotypes. Both ended up with only moderates they set out to persuade supporting them, and in a theoretical RCV situation where they are everyone's second choice but almost nobodies first choice.

Flake retired, cause he knew he couldn't win a GOP primary vs the radicals. Sinema has now become a I, effectively accepting Democratic approval and electoral support as a lost cause. But todays Arizona GOP won't be so accepting. Retirement therefore looms if the paths remain the same.
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« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2024, 05:59:38 PM »
« Edited: January 27, 2024, 07:24:24 PM by Oryxslayer »









Convention going on right now, Lake not getting support. Given this treatment is not happening to similar candidates in terms of political positions,  this is likely all cause of the DeWit situation.
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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2024, 10:55:30 PM »

Supposedly the DeWit backers cleaned up when it came to control of the party, we'll see if this leads to anything down the road in terms of retribution towards the Lake candidacy.
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« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2024, 02:23:48 PM »

Big effort post on what happened in the lead up to and then the event yesterday.



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1. I reported a few months ago that Trump was telling people he thought Kari would be a drag on the party (and him) in AZ 2024. Trump wanted another big name to run for senate instead.

2. Jeff DeWitt is a Trump favorite going back to the 2016 campaign, and DeWitt got a job in the administration.

3. It is incredibly likely that the "back east" people he referred to who wanted Kari to not run are Trump people and Trump himself.

4. Kari orchestrated DeWitt's forced resignation as party chair by holding the recordings for 10 months and releasing one just before the AZGOP annual meeting. Even then DeWitt was going to fight, but Kari told him she had more recordings.

5. Good chance Kari had recordings of DeWitt saying something about Trump or others to ingratiate himself with her, and Kari was using that against him.

6. Kari's plan was to install O'Connor as party chair, her personal puppet.

7. Trump didn't like that or what Kari had done to DeWitt. He immediately cancelled his visit to AZGOP and endorsed Gina as party chair, undermining Kari. Kari had no choice but to get in line behind Trump, and she threw O'Connor under the bus.

8. Party faithful know what Kari did and didn't like it. That's why she was heavily booed at the annual meeting. Arizonans are seeing who Kari Lake really is.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2024, 11:14:53 AM »
« Edited: February 01, 2024, 11:17:57 AM by Oryxslayer »

Gallego raised 3.3m and Lake 2.1m, by contrast. No way Sinema runs at this point IMO. Gets less likely every day.





On the topic of Lake,  apparently she still has debt from the lawsuits,  despite the radical grassroots. Politico has it at a couple hundred net positive,  to Gallegos 7 million and Sinemas massive warchest that seems likely to just be shelved.
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