PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[2016]

Democrats need Pennsylvania Senate Seat to have any chance of holding the Senate, Republicans don't.

They most likely lose AZ & GA (Democrats)!

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Democrats need Pennsylvania Senate Seat to have any chance of holding the Senate, Republicans don't.

Why do you believe this? Which Democratic-held seats are going to be far harder for them to win than Pennsylvania?

[kwabbit]

Would Dr Oz be a good candidate? Does anyone know his political stances?

[2016]

Democrats need Pennsylvania Senate Seat to have any chance of holding the Senate, Republicans don't.

Why do you believe this? Which Democratic-held seats are going to be far harder for them to win than Pennsylvania?

OH, NC, WI, MO are waaay harder to win especially in a Midterm with an Incumbent Democratic President. PA is the Democrats best shot for a Flip.

Republicans do not need a WAVE to retake Congress ala 2010 & 2014. If they win the Generic Ballot just by a couple of Points they retake Congress.

[TiltsAreUnderrated]

Democrats need Pennsylvania Senate Seat to have any chance of holding the Senate, Republicans don't.

Why do you believe this? Which Democratic-held seats are going to be far harder for them to win than Pennsylvania?

OH, NC, WI, MO are waaay harder to win especially in a Midterm with an Incumbent Democratic President. PA is the Democrats best shot for a Flip.

Republicans do not need a WAVE to retake Congress ala 2010 & 2014. If they win the Generic Ballot just by a couple of Points they retake Congress.

I agree that Republicans do not need a wave, but Democrats don't actually need to flip any seats to hold the Senate. They could quite plausibly just hold everything they have without winning PA and keep control.

I would also dispute that NC and WI can't go (non-Atlas) blue before PA does. Either scenario is quite unlikely, but there's at least a >10% chance PA ends up more Republican than the result in one of these states.

[2016]

Democrats need Pennsylvania Senate Seat to have any chance of holding the Senate, Republicans don't.

Why do you believe this? Which Democratic-held seats are going to be far harder for them to win than Pennsylvania?

OH, NC, WI, MO are waaay harder to win especially in a Midterm with an Incumbent Democratic President. PA is the Democrats best shot for a Flip.

Republicans do not need a WAVE to retake Congress ala 2010 & 2014. If they win the Generic Ballot just by a couple of Points they retake Congress.

I agree that Republicans do not need a wave, but Democrats don't actually need to flip any seats to hold the Senate. They could quite plausibly just hold everything they have without winning PA and keep control.

I would also dispute that NC and WI can't go (non-Atlas) blue before PA does. Either scenario is quite unlikely, but there's at least a >10% chance PA ends up more Republican than the result in one of these states.

Trump will have some big Defeats in the Primaries by Candidates he endorsed. I actually think Pat McCrory will beat Ted Budd in NC-SEN and if that happens NC is gone for Dems as a possible Pick Up.

[Horus]

Would Dr Oz be a good candidate? Does anyone know his political stances?

Identified as a moderate Republican in 2007, claiming to be in the mold of Teddy Roosevelt or Schwarzenegger.

More recently he defended hydroxychloroquine and Trump also appointed him to the Council on Fitness and Nutrition.

Beyond a bunch of other pseudoscience he's pushed I can't find anything more on his actual views.

[Buffalo Mayor Young Kim]

Would Dr Oz be a good candidate? Does anyone know his political stances?

We are talking about a guy that quit being a heart surgeon to sell quack remedies on daytime tv.

I doubt he has any firm beliefs beyond what keeps the grift going.

He's the perfect fit for the party of Donald Trump.

[Calthrina950]

Would Dr Oz be a good candidate? Does anyone know his political stances?

We are talking about a guy that quit being a heart surgeon to sell quack remedies on daytime tv.

I doubt he has any firm beliefs beyond what keeps the grift going.

He's the perfect fit for the party of Donald Trump.

I've caught some of his episodes, and he seems to be spending most of his time on "true crime" and "real life" stories and interviews these days, similar to what you might have seen on the Oprah Winfrey Show years ago. And it seems like many blacks are fans of his show, for reasons I don't entirely understand (as a black person).

[Morning in Atlas]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CWmCqW1sUzr/?utm_medium=copy_link

I for one want the next nominee to be a sigma male.

[Flyersfan232]

Guy reconsidering at least that the rumor better shot in 2022 then going after ceasy in 2024 even if ceasy retires

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/JonathanTamari/status/1463287200779489283

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

The first Muslim Senator being a Republican talk show host quack would be the perfect subplot for America: Season 246.

But yeah, McCormick is definitely the Republicans' best bet for the race. He could easily be a Youngkin-esque candidate and play very well against Fetterman, if not Lamb.

[MATTROSE94]

The first Muslim Senator being a Republican talk show host quack would be the perfect subplot for America: Season 246.

But yeah, McCormick is definitely the Republicans' best bet for the race. He could easily be a Youngkin-esque candidate and play very well against Fetterman, if not Lamb.

Dr. Oz would probably be the oddest Senate candidate ever nominated. I would probably vote for him and endorse him as a joke.

[Skunk]

The first Muslim Senator being a Republican talk show host quack would be the perfect subplot for America: Season 246.

But yeah, McCormick is definitely the Republicans' best bet for the race. He could easily be a Youngkin-esque candidate and play very well against Fetterman, if not Lamb.

Dr. Oz would probably be the oddest Senate candidate ever nominated. I would probably vote for him and endorse him as a joke.

Yes, Democrats ironically supporting TV show hosts for political office has never backfired before.

[Gracile]

After Donald Trump's win here in 2016, nobody should underestimate the power of Pennsylvania (and America too) to be taken in by low culture TV personalities who act under the guise of being experts in their field. The audience of these programs is a crucial voting bloc in today's political environment.

[Utah Neolib]

The first Muslim Senator being a Republican talk show host quack would be the perfect subplot for America: Season 246.

But yeah, McCormick is definitely the Republicans' best bet for the race. He could easily be a Youngkin-esque candidate and play very well against Fetterman, if not Lamb.

Dr. Oz would probably be the oddest Senate candidate ever nominated. I would probably vote for him and endorse him as a joke.

More like Ozest

[Utah Neolib]

At this rate I think Trump endorses Carla Sands if McCormick and Oz don’t jump in. She was a part of his administration and seems like a very loyal trumper.

[BigSerg]

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1463288539584647168?s=20

[Kung Fu Kenny]

I hope he gets hammered for being a carpetbagger during the primary and goes nowhere. I think Sands also wins Trump's endorsement if he gives a new one.

[LabourJersey]

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1463288539584647168?s=20

What are the odds that he polls at 10% or higher?

[THG]

This is only a rumor I'm personally hearing from GOP insiders I know and trust, but said sources that tell me this are generally pretty reliable. People online are saying this too and certain tabloids are hyping this up, but again- I trust the insider sources, and not the tabloids.

Apparently he could specifically  specifically announce this on Hannity in the next few days. I still wouldn't get too cocky to bet on it, but it honestly seems ever more likely by each passing day.


PS: If this turns out to be a bunch of drivel, all of you have the legal right to mock me.

[Calthrina950]

I'm still shocked that Dr. Oz is a Republican and that he has political ambitions.

[Shaula🏳️‍⚧️]

This is only a rumor I'm personally hearing from GOP insiders I know and trust, but said sources that tell me this are generally pretty reliable. People online are saying this too and certain tabloids are hyping this up, but again- I trust the insider sources, and not the tabloids.

Apparently he could specifically  specifically announce this on Hannity in the next few days. I still wouldn't get too cocky to bet on it, but it honestly seems ever more likely by each passing day.

Announcing on Hannity rather than Tucker leads me to believe he'll run as a traditional muh economy muh socialism Republican. Ugh, hopefully someone better wins the primary.

[THG]

I'm still shocked that Dr. Oz is a Republican and that he has political ambitions.

He's a very moderate Republican who has been friends with every GOP nominee since Bush, although he has many Democratic friends too. I don't know why he'd have political ambitions, but I can see why he would.  

He will also probably receive the Trump endorsement, even if he isn't super Trumpian himself.