Marquette poll of WI: Biden+5
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« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2020, 12:42:30 PM »

I would also like to see a NYT/Siena poll here. Their methods are similar to Marquette, but their screen is a little less tight.
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« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2020, 12:43:32 PM »





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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2020, 12:43:39 PM »

Seems that WI is inching closer to becoming the tipping-point state as PA swings into Biden's column.

A bit of an overreaction to one poll. We've had multiple other high quality polls of Wisconsin closer to the 6-8 range.

Recent high-quality polls have shown the race in PA is more like Biden+8, whereas Wisconsin is probably slightly to the right of that. Could change, but Biden is favored in either state. Just thinking that WI possibly puts Biden over the top.

Winning without WI is far easier than winning without PA, so I think Biden would take that trade.  Not to mention the resumption of clear Biden leads in Florida in the last week or so of polling. 

MU Law seems to always have about this margin for Biden regardless of how the national polls are swinging.  Points for consistency.

That's true. If FL goes to Biden, talk of WI/AZ is pretty much pointless. I'm operating under the assumption that FL is and always has been a tossup, despite polling favoring Biden recently. I could end up being wrong, but the state that went to Republicans in a Trump midterm is almost certainly not giving Biden any impressive margin.
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« Reply #28 on: October 07, 2020, 12:45:40 PM »







All pretty good signs for Biden, even if the topline isn't great for him.
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2020, 12:46:21 PM »

If Biden has +3 favorable and Trump is -8 on approval then Biden definitely has more upside here.
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« Reply #30 on: October 07, 2020, 12:46:36 PM »

I would imagine this is closer to the final result...


I wouldn’t.  If your not solid Biden after this absolutely AWFUL week for Trump, what is going to make you decide him at the end?

Lmfao so this is the poll that’s locked in for you and none of the other ones?
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« Reply #31 on: October 07, 2020, 12:47:37 PM »

I would imagine this is closer to the final result...


I wouldn’t.  If your not solid Biden after this absolutely AWFUL week for Trump, what is going to make you decide him at the end?

Lmfao so this is the poll that’s locked in for you and none of the other ones?
They don’t call it the Gold Standard for no reason...
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« Reply #32 on: October 07, 2020, 12:50:23 PM »

I would imagine this is closer to the final result...


I wouldn’t.  If your not solid Biden after this absolutely AWFUL week for Trump, what is going to make you decide him at the end?

Lmfao so this is the poll that’s locked in for you and none of the other ones?
They don’t call it the Gold Standard for no reason...

The gold standard right across the border in IA showed Biden with 47% of the vote there, though. Biden is probably not as low as 46% in WI if he's tied with a higher number in IA.
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« Reply #33 on: October 07, 2020, 12:51:30 PM »

I would imagine this is closer to the final result...


I wouldn’t.  If your not solid Biden after this absolutely AWFUL week for Trump, what is going to make you decide him at the end?

Lmfao so this is the poll that’s locked in for you and none of the other ones?
They don’t call it the Gold Standard for no reason...

Yeah, we have no reason to discredit it. Maybe add a point or two to Biden given the national environment and other polling here. Someone had a decent method of taking the most recent Marquette Poll and then averaging it with polling average. I think that works.
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« Reply #34 on: October 07, 2020, 12:52:04 PM »



The trend is interesting.
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« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2020, 12:53:53 PM »



The trend is interesting.

If Biden closes the campaign strong, preferably with a final debate performance where Trump melts down and Biden scores more TV-worthy moments, he can win WI by a decent margin. Trump's path to winning relies on low turnout in Milwaukee and big swings to Trump among rural areas to make up for the swings towards Biden that will likely occur in Dane+WOW.
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« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2020, 12:54:08 PM »

This looks like a 2016 poll.
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« Reply #37 on: October 07, 2020, 12:57:38 PM »

Too much for my liking
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« Reply #38 on: October 07, 2020, 12:57:40 PM »

I believe Biden will win WI by about +6/7, so it's about right.
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« Reply #39 on: October 07, 2020, 01:03:44 PM »

47-42 when leaners are pushed. Also no difference between registered and likely voters.
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« Reply #40 on: October 07, 2020, 01:04:44 PM »

Not really indicative of a 10-point or 15-point national race.
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« Reply #41 on: October 07, 2020, 01:05:37 PM »

Best poll for Trump all week, am I’m being 100% serious.
I agree. It shows that WI is certainly not gone for Trump.
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« Reply #42 on: October 07, 2020, 01:08:39 PM »

The undecideds seem weird to me, but Marquette has IIRC been consistently showing high numbers of Jorgensen, which I don't believe is accurate for a second. Throw it in the average, but I'm not concerned.
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« Reply #43 on: October 07, 2020, 01:14:29 PM »

Undecideds appear to lean Democratic.

They are younger, widowed/never married, black or hispanic (whites are 100% decided), moderate or liberal, live in the City of Milwaukee.
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« Reply #44 on: October 07, 2020, 01:16:34 PM »

Four years ago, Marquette:

Clinton 44
Trump 37
Johnson 9
Stein 3
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« Reply #45 on: October 07, 2020, 01:16:58 PM »

I would also like to see a NYT/Siena poll here. Their methods are similar to Marquette, but their screen is a little less tight.

Luckily Times/Siena is doing Wisconsin and Michigan next week
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« Reply #46 on: October 07, 2020, 01:17:49 PM »

This is terrible for Biden...
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« Reply #47 on: October 07, 2020, 01:18:12 PM »

47-42 when leaners are pushed. Also no difference between registered and likely voters.

With leaners:

Biden 47% (-1)
Trump 42% (-2)
Jorgensen 4% (n/c)
Refused 1% (-1)
None/other 1% (+1)
Don't know 1% (-1)
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« Reply #48 on: October 07, 2020, 01:19:26 PM »

Makes sense if Biden is up by 8 or so nationally. I don't see how this is "bad" for Biden when Marquette was very good in 2018 (they had a tie in the gubernatorial race and Baldwin +10 in the Senate race.) They do need to push undecideds more, though.
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« Reply #49 on: October 07, 2020, 01:19:50 PM »

Not really indicative of a 10-point or 15-point national race.

It's one poll.
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