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Question: Gay marriage in new states? / DOMA struck down?
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No / No
 
#2
No / Yes
 
#3
California only / No
 
#4
California only / Yes
 
#5
Nationwide / Yes
 
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H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY
Alfred F. Jones
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« on: June 24, 2013, 02:01:49 PM »

Fortunately, JCL, you're a member of an increasingly small minority.

That is where you would be glaringly wrong. Gay marriage is like taking a Rembrandt and spraying graffiti on it. Plus there is more who agree with me than you think and we're the majority.

A) Comparing heterosexual marriage to the works of Rembrandt is an insult to Rembrandt.

B) Proof? How do you know how many people, nationwide (not just in some goddamn podunk town in Indiana), support or oppose gay marriage? How do you know?
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Alfred F. Jones
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« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2013, 11:11:16 PM »

Fortunately, JCL, you're a member of an increasingly small minority.

That is where you would be glaringly wrong. Gay marriage is like taking a Rembrandt and spraying graffiti on it. Plus there is more who agree with me than you think and we're the majority.

A) Comparing heterosexual marriage to the works of Rembrandt is an insult to Rembrandt.

B) Proof? How do you know how many people, nationwide (not just in some goddamn podunk town in Indiana), support or oppose gay marriage? How do you know?

The burden of proof is on your side not mine. Besides how is it an insult to Rembrandt to use the comparison of traditional marriage vs gay marriage? You're trying to overturn the whole of human history in the name of moral relativity when this issue should be a non sequitur. With regards to the ratio of support vs opposition to gay marriage in Indiana the state is at least 60 against 30 for and ten not sure. We as a state want to ban and its wrong for the SCOTUS to say we can't. California banned it and that's something the pro-gay marriage crowd just can't stand.

You're the one making the statement, you have to prove it. And Rembrandt was a good painter, whereas Kim Kardashian's "traditional" "marriage" was not a good marriage. Morality overturns tradition - husbands beating their wives was tradition for a damn long time. Heterosexuality hasn't always been the only game in town, nor should it be so solely on the basis that it was once. As to approval, I specifically said nationwide - Maine, for example, approved gay marriage by popular vote. And on the subject of "states' rights", many states wanted slavery and segregation. Should we have just let them be?
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Alfred F. Jones
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2013, 09:04:29 AM »

SCOTUSblog says DOMA's overturned - the usual 4-4 split with Kennedy joining the liberals. Equal protection grounds.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2013, 09:14:47 AM »

SCOTUSblog also says that the DOMA dissents make it seem like Prop 8 will be dismissed on standing.
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