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« Reply #100 on: July 14, 2007, 02:58:17 PM »
Current Tally
Aye: 1 (DWTL)
Nay: 4 (Lewis; Phil; PBrunsel; Ebowed)
Abstain: 2 (Sam; Brandon)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Al; Rob)
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« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2007, 08:44:33 PM »
I'm changing my vote to Nay, b/c I'm starting to not see any point to forming a commission.

As thus, with 1 vote in favor and 5 against, the amendment fails.
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« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2007, 03:43:24 PM »
Just to make a point with this legislation - I really don't see how the Senate can make a resolution to hold a public referendum - shouldn't that go through other angles.

If so, I would prefer to see the legislation get the required cloture vote or be tabled.  Or get an amendment that leads to public referendum.

In short, we have other legislation that needs to get on the floor and I am curious to see whether we can do something with this quickly.
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« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2007, 01:17:41 PM »
Quote from: Sam Spade on July 16, 2007, 03:43:24 PM
Just to make a point with this legislation - I really don't see how the Senate can make a resolution to hold a public referendum - shouldn't that go through other angles.

If so, I would prefer to see the legislation get the required cloture vote or be tabled.  Or get an amendment that leads to public referendum.

In short, we have other legislation that needs to get on the floor and I am curious to see whether we can do something with this quickly.
There aren't any amendments around... so why don't you kill it by straight yes/no vote already. You've done so once already.

This bill will obviously be back by the next Senate.
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« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2007, 02:46:16 PM »
Ok....  I would like to motion for cloture.


We shall now vote on the motion of cloture. 

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


Aye.
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« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2007, 02:59:52 PM »
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« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2007, 03:33:59 PM »
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« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2007, 06:54:23 PM »
I understand what Sam has stated and I will be talking with the SoEA and with whoever else has any imput they would like to add on when to hold such a referendum and what the options should be for such a vote. After this is completed I would like to enact it via executive order as that would seem to be the best way to legally accomplish what has been proposed.
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« Reply #108 on: July 18, 2007, 03:26:19 PM »
bumping in case people have missed the cloture motion vote.
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« Reply #109 on: July 18, 2007, 07:23:59 PM »
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« Reply #110 on: July 18, 2007, 07:28:04 PM »
Abstain
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« Reply #111 on: July 18, 2007, 10:40:24 PM »
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« Reply #112 on: July 20, 2007, 07:31:09 AM »
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« Reply #113 on: July 20, 2007, 09:32:20 AM »
Current Tally on Cloture Motion (Sam)
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Phil)
Nay: 2 (Ebowed; Rob)
Abstain: 1 (Al)
Absent: 1 (DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Lewis; PBrunsel)
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« Reply #114 on: July 20, 2007, 11:56:27 AM »
Quote from: Jas on July 20, 2007, 09:32:20 AM
Current Tally on Cloture Motion (Sam)
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Phil)
Nay: 2 (Ebowed; Rob)
Abstain: 1 (Al)
Absent: 1 (DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Lewis; PBrunsel)
I voted "present". Huh
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« Reply #115 on: July 20, 2007, 11:59:11 AM »
Quote from: what will come (has already come) on July 20, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Jas on July 20, 2007, 09:32:20 AM
Current Tally on Cloture Motion (Sam)
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Phil)
Nay: 2 (Ebowed; Rob)
Abstain: 1 (Al)
Absent: 1 (DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Lewis; PBrunsel)
I voted "present". Huh

Yeah, but I have no idea what to ascribe it to. Huh I was wavering between Aye and Abstain for different reasons, but gor lack of certainty decided to either let Sam figure it out (Smiley) or wait for clarification.
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« Reply #116 on: July 20, 2007, 12:05:21 PM »
Quote from: Jas on July 20, 2007, 11:59:11 AM
Quote from: what will come (has already come) on July 20, 2007, 11:56:27 AM
Quote from: Jas on July 20, 2007, 09:32:20 AM
Current Tally on Cloture Motion (Sam)
Aye: 3 (Sam; Brandon; Phil)
Nay: 2 (Ebowed; Rob)
Abstain: 1 (Al)
Absent: 1 (DWTL)
Yet to Vote: 2 (Lewis; PBrunsel)
I voted "present". Huh

Yeah, but I have no idea what to ascribe it to. Huh I was wavering between Aye and Abstain for different reasons, but gor lack of certainty decided to either let Sam figure it out (Smiley) or wait for clarification.
"Abstain".
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« Reply #117 on: July 20, 2007, 07:11:46 PM »
Present will be ignored by me.  Though a future version of the OSPR may attach it some significance, if I can ever get around to that.
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« Reply #118 on: July 20, 2007, 09:22:06 PM »
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« Reply #119 on: July 21, 2007, 08:31:09 AM »
With 4 votes in favor, 2 against, 2 not voting, 1 seat absent and 1 seat present, the motion for cloture has failed.

I guess we'll now just have to wait for the executive order - or if someone wants to propose more amendments, feel free - if not, I will bring another cloture vote.
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« Reply #120 on: July 22, 2007, 02:46:06 PM »
I would like to bring "motion to table".  2/3rds of the Senate voting in favor is needed to table the legislation (as that is I established tabling motions would be set)

Please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.


Aye.
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« Reply #121 on: July 22, 2007, 02:52:23 PM »
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« Reply #122 on: July 22, 2007, 02:55:32 PM »
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« Reply #123 on: July 22, 2007, 03:06:51 PM »
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« Reply #124 on: July 22, 2007, 03:09:20 PM »
I hope we don't get another Nay vote against tabling because this bill is going nowhere and no one wants to get rid of it or change it.
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