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LeBron
LeBron FitzGerald
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« on: December 03, 2013, 02:51:43 AM »



Governor Cathcon (R-MI)/Senator Goldwater (R-WA) - 269 EVs
Senator TNF (D-KY)/Governor Adam C. FitzGerald (D-OH) - 269 EVs

As TNF decides to run as a Democrat rather than a Socialist, TNF/Adam C. FitzGerald manage to grab the appeal of a lot of voters including in the south after running on a record of progressive ideals while instigating that Cathcon is too far right to be president. On the other hand, Cathcon/Goldwater do well in their own states and in the midwest resulting in an electoral tie. The GOP House chooses Cathcon to be President and the Democratic controlled Senate chooses Adam C. FitzGerald to be VP.
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LeBron
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 11:10:49 PM »

1968 Presidential Election:



Governor Oldiesfreak1854 (R-MI)/Senator ElectionsGuy (R-WI) - 284 EVs
Senator Snowstalker (D-PA)/Governor Adam C. FitzGerald (D-OH) - 254 EVs

Dixie ultimately costs the Democrats in the race the election. Despite unpopularity of the War in Vietnam and an outgoing incumbent Democratic President, Snowstalker and A. FitzGerald become doves on foreign policy promising a full withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam and remain competitive up north while holding a number of southern states. However, still angry over the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the deep south turns against the social Democrats and turn to the more socially conservative Republican Governor of Michigan, Oldiesfreak.

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LeBron
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 08:47:10 PM »

1968 Presidential Election:



Governor Oldiesfreak1854 (R-MI)/Senator ElectionsGuy (R-WI) - 284 EVs
Senator Snowstalker (D-PA)/Governor Adam C. FitzGerald (D-OH) - 254 EVs

Dixie ultimately costs the Democrats in the race the election. Despite unpopularity of the War in Vietnam and an outgoing incumbent Democratic President, Snowstalker and A. FitzGerald become doves on foreign policy promising a full withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam and remain competitive up north while holding a number of southern states. However, still angry over the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the deep south turns against the social Democrats and turn to the more socially conservative Republican Governor of Michigan, Oldiesfreak.


The South was already moving toward Republicans before the civil rights legislation.  And you seriously think white racists would vote for me?

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For one thing, you should stop interrupting these with remarks on almost every single map somebody posts.

But come on, it was obvious from the start of the FDR Presidency that the Democratic Party would one day no longer appeal to deep southerners. Those were not only Barry Goldwater Repub. states, but also Wallace states and there's no question they would go for you two. Not only because you and ElectionsGuy are much more hawkish than me or Snowstalker is or the bout with civil rights at the time, but in all honestly do you really think that Dixie would vote for a Democratic establishment, economically and socially liberal gay northern guy and pretty much a socialist from Pennsylvania? They would rather want me dead at that time than they would their President. Let's be serious here....
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LeBron
LeBron FitzGerald
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2013, 08:33:03 PM »

1968 Presidential Election:



Governor Oldiesfreak1854 (R-MI)/Senator ElectionsGuy (R-WI) - 284 EVs
Senator Snowstalker (D-PA)/Governor Adam C. FitzGerald (D-OH) - 254 EVs

Dixie ultimately costs the Democrats in the race the election. Despite unpopularity of the War in Vietnam and an outgoing incumbent Democratic President, Snowstalker and A. FitzGerald become doves on foreign policy promising a full withdrawal of U.S. troops from Vietnam and remain competitive up north while holding a number of southern states. However, still angry over the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, the deep south turns against the social Democrats and turn to the more socially conservative Republican Governor of Michigan, Oldiesfreak.


The South was already moving toward Republicans before the civil rights legislation.  And you seriously think white racists would vote for me?

SKIP
For one thing, you should stop interrupting these with remarks on almost every single map somebody posts.

But come on, it was obvious from the start of the FDR Presidency that the Democratic Party would one day no longer appeal to deep southerners. Those were not only Barry Goldwater Repub. states, but also Wallace states and there's no question they would go for you two. Not only because you and ElectionsGuy are much more hawkish than me or Snowstalker is or the bout with civil rights at the time, but in all honestly do you really think that Dixie would vote for a Democratic establishment, economically and socially liberal gay northern guy and pretty much a socialist from Pennsylvania? They would rather want me dead at that time than they would their President. Let's be serious here....
First, George Wallace was a Democrat.  I think it's more likely he would run against both of us as an Independent (like he did IRL.)  Second, the notion that someone as strongly pro-civil rights as me would win in the Deep South in 1968 is comical.  Maybe in the Outer South, which was already oving toward the GOP before the civil rights movement, but not there.  Economic issues, anti-communism, and in-migration had much more to do with the shift than race.
In case you didn't notice, your PM score shows you as socially conservative while I'm more socially liberal than you. The traditional South would approve of you more that way for sure and would get solid approval for your foreign policy stance I mentioned in the map.

And yes, Wallace was a Democrat, but barely. Goldwater was a very conservative politician early on socially and economically while you could also consider Wallace socially conservative given all the BS he pulled as Governor of Alabama. An earlier version of Goldwater would have done the same thing because he was against civil rights just like him. Interestingly enough, both of them would go on to realize the errors of their ways later on in life.

But the fact that you think I would most likely carry Wallace/Goldwater states compared to you is a joke. Like I said before, the deep South would rather prefer me dead back in 1968 than they would want me in office. The outer South on the other hand while they lost Democratic influence faster, would be more tolerable with my political views. Virginia would have taken me any day over a state like Alabama back then.

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