Why should a liberal Deomocrat support Evan Bayh?

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A -3.85 social score isn't really liberal.

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

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Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

Well that was a negative for Kerry, too. But at least Kerry said the war was a mistake. Has Bayh said anything?

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Bayh has always supported the war.

He has proposed a bill to end the "Patriot Penalty" so that soliders won't have their pay cut once they come back from the war.

Pro-war is a definite negative when it comes to the primary. And if they don't admit it's a mistake, it will hurt them in the general election too. Kerry did ok since he admitted it was a mistake, but it would have been better if he hadn't voted for the war in the first place.

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I'd rather just exempt their families from income tax.

Some of them probably make so little money that they don't pay income tax, especially if they have a family.

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Bayh also voted for the bankruptcy bill. Not good. Even a lot of Christian groups opposed that.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044

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Bayh also voted for the bankruptcy bill. Not good. Even a lot of Christian groups opposed that.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00044

According to your link, so did 3/4 of the Senate.

Not exactly the Senate's finest hour. Even a lot of conservative blogs opposed that bill. Just because it got a lot of Senators to vote for it doesn't mean that it's popular with citizens who were following it. Basically the Senators who voted for it are all hoping for lots of money from credit card companies.

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I am very happy with the bill, and I'm no credit card company. It enrages my sense of justice that people don't pay their debts.

Maybe your attitude would change given the fact that half of people who declare bankruptcy do so because of large medical bills. Sure some people are just fiscally irresponsible, like the President. but what about all the people who are declaring bankruptcy for legitimate reasons?

Anyways, the bankruptcy process now works much better for companies than individuals. That's f**cked up.

votes of people mentioned for 2008:
Yes:
Bayh, Biden
No:
Boxer, Feingold, Kerry, Obama
In addition, Hillary would have voted no if she was there.

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Senator Kennedy tried to have a homeowner's exemption for people who large medical bills, but it got shot down. Get sick, and lose your house now.

Also Instapundit, JustOneMinute, Tactitus, and Red State all opposed it. For more information, go here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=18241.msg392781#msg392781

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They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

So a 25% interest rate seems reasonable to you?

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Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm

For all their Canada bashing, they still admit it's better than the US. That's pretty funny.

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Well, that obviously depends who you are. And actually, they cited the World Health Organization for that.

Anyways, Canada completely kicks our butt on these 2 measures (that are important to look at together). They both have longer life expectancies, and spend much less of their GDP on health care.

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Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

George W. Bush:

Opposed Homeland Security Department
Then he was for it

flip-flop

Opposed an independent 9/11 Commission
Then he was for it

Flippity-flop

Opposed McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill
Then he was for it

Flippity-floppity

This would be why I thought you were 12.

So how old was the person who came up with the attacks on Kerry? 8?

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John Kerry did change his mind on principle. The intelligence community told him one thing before the vote. So, he voted for it. Then when he found out they lied, he came out against the war. It's a war built up with lies and deception. Ignorance truly must be bliss if anyone believes that George W. Bush, a man who has spent most of his adult life in the business of oil, really gives a damn about the people of Iraq. He wants oil and power.

He beleived the intelligence reports. Senator Nelson of Florida said specifically that he was fooled into voting for the war by them. The information available had changed significantly when Kerry then started saying it was a mistake.

I'm not really defending Kerry here since obviously some Democrats didn't trust what the Bush adminstration was saying, and weren't fooled, so that isn't the best excuse.