Smid's Diplomacy Game Thread #2

[Smid]

ok.  Hopefully no one submits builds before I convince them about how swell my ideas are, but that sounds more than acceptable.

I'd have to push the deadline back for everyone. Wouldn't make sense, otherwise.

[dead0man]

The builds were as follows: 1

Just bumping the current map.

[Silent Hunter]

I'll be on holiday from 23-30 March as well.

[Silent Hunter]

So, what's the deadline for this round?

[Smid]

So, what's the deadline for this round?

As per normal - so in about 7 hours, 45 minutes.

[Smid]

The moves for Spring 1902 were:



France
A Belgium - Picardy
F Brest Holds
F Marseilles - Gulf of Lyon
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Holds
A Portugal - Spain

Russia
F Gulf of Bothnia Convoys A St Petersburg - Sweden
F Sevastopol Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A St Petersburg - Sweden
A Ukraine - Rumania

Italy
F Naples - Tyrrhenian Sea
A Tunis Holds
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Western Mediterranean
A Venice - Piedmont

Germany
A Berlin - Prussia
A Denmark - North Sea (*Fails*)
A Holland Supports A Belgium (*Ordered to Move*)
A Munich - Silesia
F Skagerrak Supports A Denmark (*Ordered to Move*)

Austria-Hungary
A Budapest - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Rumania - Sevastopol (*Dislodged*)
A Serbia Supports A Budapest - Rumania
F Trieste - Albania
A Venice - Galicia

Turkey
F Black Sea Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
A Bulgaria Supports A Ukraine - Rumania
F Constantinople Supports A Bulgaria
A Greece Supports A Bulgaria
F Smyrna - Aegean Sea

England
F English Channel Supports A Belgium (*Ordered to Move*)
F London - North Sea
F North Sea - Norwegian Sea
A Norway - St Petersburg

No retreats are required. Following the moves, the map appears thus:

[Silent Hunter]

Interesting, I seem to have an English army in my territory.

It will of course be removed forthwith by London.

[ilikeverin]

By popular request, I shall post this political cartoon that ran in the Viennese Valliterative Vtimes here:

[ilikeverin]

So are we on hold for the week, and if not who should we be corresponding with instead of the players on vacation?

[Gustaf]

I'm pretty sure we have an extended dead-line. Anyway, you can talk to me!

[Smid]

Yes - I've pushed back the deadline to Monday night my time, which would probably be latish on Sunday in the US. Generally speaking, only our Californian and other West Coast posters are still online at that time, so if you have them in on Sunday your time, you should be right. Lunar is expected back Sunday morning at the latest, leaving most of the day available for negotiations.

[Silent Hunter]

I'm not back fully online until Tuesday, actually.

[Smid]

I'm not back fully online until Tuesday, actually.

Alright, well in that case it's probably best to push the deadline back a week to make sure everyone's back and able to negotiate. Makes it a little bit less confusing as to when people need things in.

[Silent Hunter]

OK, thanks for that.

[Lunar]

Lunar went with Murphy by 5.24? Okay, I'll say 5.25.

*invades Italy*

[minionofmidas]

Lunar went with Murphy by 5.24? Okay, I'll say 5.25.

*invades Italy*

NOOO! I'M ENGLAND! DON'T YOU REMEMBER? ENGLAND! INVADE ENGLAND!

Or maybe France or Russia or Austria or something.

[Gustaf]

Lunar went with Murphy by 5.24? Okay, I'll say 5.25.

*invades Italy*

NOOO! I'M ENGLAND! DON'T YOU REMEMBER? ENGLAND! INVADE ENGLAND!

Or maybe France or Russia or Austria or something.

hey...

[minionofmidas]

Lunar went with Murphy by 5.24? Okay, I'll say 5.25.

*invades Italy*

NOOO! I'M ENGLAND! DON'T YOU REMEMBER? ENGLAND! INVADE ENGLAND!

Or maybe France or Russia or Austria or something.

hey...

[Smid]

Just a reminder that I'll be adjudicating this Sunday this week my time (so this weekend).

[Smid]

The moves for this turn were:



France
F Brest NMR
F Gulf of Lyon NMR
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean NMR
A Picardy NMR
A Spain NMR

Russia
F Gulf of Bothnia - St Petersburg (sc) (*Fails*)
A Rumania Supports A Greece - Serbia (*Cut*)
F Sevastopol Holds
A Sweden - Norway (*Dislodged*)

Italy
A Piedmont Holds
A Tunis - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea Convoys A Tunis - Tuscany
F Western Mediterranean - Spain (sc) (*Fails*)

Germany
A Denmark - Sweden
A Holland Holds
A Prussia - Livonia
A Silesia - Warsaw
F Skagerrak Supports A Denmark - Sweden

Austria-Hungary
F Albania - Greece
A Budapest Supports A Serbia
A Galicia - Rumania (*Fails*)
A Serbia Supports F Albania - Greece

Turkey
F Aegean Sea - Greece (*Fails*)
F Black Sea Supports A Rumania
A Bulgaria Supports A Greece - Serbia
F Constantinople - Aegean Sea (*Fails*)
A Greece - Serbia (*Disbanded*)

England
F English Channel - Belgium
F North Sea Supports F English Channel - Belgium
F Norwegian Sea - Norway (*Bounce*)
A St Petersburg Supports F Norwegian Sea - Norway (*Cut*)

Therefore, after moves, the map appears thus:



There is a retreat required for the Russian Army in Sweden. I believe there is only one place it can retreat.

[Јas]

Clearly, I don't actually understand Diplomacy.
Can someone explain how the Austrian fleet took Greece?

[Gustaf]

Clearly, I don't actually understand Diplomacy.
Can someone explain how the Austrian fleet took Greece?

Austria had one unit going in, supported by Serbia. You had one fleet going into Greece unsupported, so you lost. The unit in Greece cannot cut support on an attack going into Greece.

[muon2]

Clearly, I don't actually understand Diplomacy.
Can someone explain how the Austrian fleet took Greece?

A unit cannot cut support that is directed at that unit. In this case the army Ser was used to support an attack on Gre from the fleet Alb. Therefore the attack from Gre to Ser does not cut the support.

Other options would have resulted in no change in position:

Had the Rus army Rum attacked Ser that would have cut support since Ser was not used to support against Rum. Same thing if the Bul army attacked Ser.

Had the army Bul been used to support the fleet move to Gre then that would have bounced the fleet from Alb to Gre with Ser support. The army in Gre would have remained.

[minionofmidas]

*slaps self for late correction*

[Silent Hunter]

I'll retreat to Finland.