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« Reply #1625 on: May 02, 2018, 11:47:56 PM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

There would be no more amusing development of this election cycle than Kucinich re-emerging from the Fox News oblivion and pulling off a win Cheesy
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« Reply #1626 on: May 03, 2018, 06:41:20 AM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.
His inevitable quixotic Presidential campaign afterward would r something to behold, too.
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« Reply #1627 on: May 03, 2018, 09:32:17 AM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

I'm in the same boat. He's a little too kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.  

Treating bad outcomes which will cause many people to get hurt as cause for celebration simply because it might upset someone you don’t like or b/c “LOL wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened” is a pretty elitist mindset and such attitudes are generally a luxury only afforded to those who will never have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and tend to suggest a remarkable lack of empathy for those hurt by the results of certain electoral outcomes.  Elections aren’t some game that exists only as an excuse to upset people you disagree with; they have significant consequences and when bad people win it can put them in a position to destroy the lives of some of the most vulnerable members of society.  I would have hoped that would be self-evident to folks who dedicate as much time as you guys do to True Left virtue signaling, but I guess not.
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« Reply #1628 on: May 03, 2018, 10:28:27 AM »

It seems that Mary Taylor is way more of serious contender since he "muh DeWine open borders" ad blitz. I got a fundraising email last night from Cordray/Sutton saying "losing [the primary] could mean we give Mike DeWine or *Mary Taylor* a clear path to victory this fall". Does this hint at Cordray realizing Taylor has a shot or am I reading to far into things? 
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« Reply #1629 on: May 03, 2018, 11:53:02 AM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

I'm in the same boat. He's a little too kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.  

Treating bad outcomes which will cause many people to get hurt as cause for celebration simply because it might upset someone you don’t like or b/c “LOL wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened” is a pretty elitist mindset and such attitudes are generally a luxury only afforded to those who will never have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and tend to suggest a remarkable lack of empathy for those hurt by the results of certain electoral outcomes.  Elections aren’t some game that exists only as an excuse to upset people you disagree with; they have significant consequences and when bad people win it can put them in a position to destroy the lives of some of the most vulnerable members of society.  I would have hoped that would be self-evident to folks who dedicate as much time as you guys do to True Left virtue signaling, but I guess not.

They're saying they'd enjoy seeing Kucinich become Governor, not just get the nomination.

Which would still be absolutely horrible for Ohio.
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« Reply #1630 on: May 03, 2018, 12:30:23 PM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

I'm in the same boat. He's a little too kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.  

Treating bad outcomes which will cause many people to get hurt as cause for celebration simply because it might upset someone you don’t like or b/c “LOL wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened” is a pretty elitist mindset and such attitudes are generally a luxury only afforded to those who will never have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and tend to suggest a remarkable lack of empathy for those hurt by the results of certain electoral outcomes.  Elections aren’t some game that exists only as an excuse to upset people you disagree with; they have significant consequences and when bad people win it can put them in a position to destroy the lives of some of the most vulnerable members of society.  I would have hoped that would be self-evident to folks who dedicate as much time as you guys do to True Left virtue signaling, but I guess not.

They're saying they'd enjoy seeing Kucinich become Governor, not just get the nomination.

Which would still be absolutely horrible for Ohio.

 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.
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« Reply #1631 on: May 03, 2018, 12:34:35 PM »

Spoiled maroon avatars think Kucinich could actually win, well guess what, if you want Ohio to continue John Kasich's failed policies, be my guest.
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« Reply #1632 on: May 03, 2018, 12:37:21 PM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

I'm in the same boat. He's a little too kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.  

Treating bad outcomes which will cause many people to get hurt as cause for celebration simply because it might upset someone you don’t like or b/c “LOL wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened” is a pretty elitist mindset and such attitudes are generally a luxury only afforded to those who will never have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and tend to suggest a remarkable lack of empathy for those hurt by the results of certain electoral outcomes.  Elections aren’t some game that exists only as an excuse to upset people you disagree with; they have significant consequences and when bad people win it can put them in a position to destroy the lives of some of the most vulnerable members of society.  I would have hoped that would be self-evident to folks who dedicate as much time as you guys do to True Left virtue signaling, but I guess not.

They're saying they'd enjoy seeing Kucinich become Governor, not just get the nomination.

Which would still be absolutely horrible for Ohio.

I’d still take it over DeWine.
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« Reply #1633 on: May 03, 2018, 12:38:52 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

You wouldn’t know jack sh!t about Ohio if Brutus bit you on the ass.
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« Reply #1634 on: May 03, 2018, 02:19:33 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

You wouldn’t know jack sh!t about Ohio if Brutus bit you on the ass.

This is the point where I mention Ohio State is my most hated FBS team. That's right, above Alabama.
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« Reply #1635 on: May 03, 2018, 02:23:21 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

You wouldn’t know jack sh!t about Ohio if Brutus bit you on the ass.

This is the point where I mention Ohio State is my most hated FBS team. That's right, above Alabama.

This is the point where I mention that no one cares.
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« Reply #1636 on: May 03, 2018, 09:30:30 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

You wouldn’t know jack sh!t about Ohio if Brutus bit you on the ass.

This is the point where I mention Ohio State is my most hated FBS team. That's right, above Alabama.

This is the point where I mention that no one cares.
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« Reply #1637 on: May 03, 2018, 10:14:58 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

You wouldn’t know jack sh!t about Ohio if Brutus bit you on the ass.

This is the point where I mention Ohio State is my most hated FBS team. That's right, above Alabama.

This is the point where I mention that no one cares.
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« Reply #1638 on: May 04, 2018, 12:06:27 PM »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.
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« Reply #1639 on: May 04, 2018, 02:30:06 PM »

In Cincinnati, even relatives of Parkland survivors prefer Cordray to Kucinich. Her argument is basically that Kucinich can't win and that you're delusional if you think we're getting an AWB in Ohio. Which is accurate. She says Kucinich is "promising something he can't deliver" and that "people will die while we wait for that ban." Ouch! She also says "I live in the real world" on multiple occasions.

I appreciate that pragmatism, in the Democratic Party, isn't dead after all.

I find that Democrats in this area are among the most pragmatic I've ever seen and we're very skeptical of grand promises. Idealism died here a long time ago if it ever even existed in the first place. Kucinich is also just broadly hated here, even among Bernie supporters, who aren't that common in the first place (even college students complain that Bernie is "literally a socialist" or that he was full of crap when he was promising free college.) Kucinich's brand of politics is an incredibly poor fit here.

This is single most accurate sentence I've ever read about Ohio btw.

Oh, that's really only in reference to the Cincinnati area. I don't think you can generalize all of Ohio politics that way. Northeast Ohio definitely seems less bitter and jaded.
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« Reply #1640 on: May 04, 2018, 02:30:28 PM »

For the record I'm not a Kuchinich supporter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if he won. I'd be the happiest boy on Atlas.

I'm in the same boat. He's a little too kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.  

Treating bad outcomes which will cause many people to get hurt as cause for celebration simply because it might upset someone you don’t like or b/c “LOL wouldn’t it be crazy if that happened” is a pretty elitist mindset and such attitudes are generally a luxury only afforded to those who will never have to worry about where their next meal is coming from and tend to suggest a remarkable lack of empathy for those hurt by the results of certain electoral outcomes.  Elections aren’t some game that exists only as an excuse to upset people you disagree with; they have significant consequences and when bad people win it can put them in a position to destroy the lives of some of the most vulnerable members of society.  I would have hoped that would be self-evident to folks who dedicate as much time as you guys do to True Left virtue signaling, but I guess not.
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« Reply #1641 on: May 04, 2018, 02:33:25 PM »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.

I am loving all these righteous smackdowns. There are states I'm not too fond of because of their politics or whatever, but I there isn't a single state where I'd want the people there to suffer. I just can't understand that complete lack of empathy.
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« Reply #1642 on: May 04, 2018, 05:20:50 PM »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.

I am loving all these righteous smackdowns. There are states I'm not too fond of because of their politics or whatever, but I there isn't a single state where I'd want the people there to suffer. I just can't understand that complete lack of empathy.

I don't want people in Ohio to suffer, I want them to get the Kuch.
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« Reply #1643 on: May 04, 2018, 05:29:26 PM »

Thank you for taking on the corrupt Ohio Democratic machine who wants to throw away another election, publicunofficial. I believe Kucinich is the only force that can save a bottom 2 state in America from itself.
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« Reply #1644 on: May 04, 2018, 08:00:22 PM »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.

I am loving all these righteous smackdowns. There are states I'm not too fond of because of their politics or whatever, but I there isn't a single state where I'd want the people there to suffer. I just can't understand that complete lack of empathy.

I don't want people in Ohio to suffer, I want them to get the Kuch.

You’re getting really boring, so I’m gonna put you on ignore now and recommend anyone else interested in civil discussion or intelligent debate do the same.  Bye.
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« Reply #1645 on: May 04, 2018, 09:24:26 PM »

“For the record, I’m not a Stein voter, but I think it would be absolutely hilarious if she cost Democrats the election.  I’d be the happiest boy on Atlas.  Trump’s a little kooky, but the meltdowns from some of the red avatars here would be hilarious.” - Basically the logic of many on the left who sat out 2016.

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« Reply #1646 on: May 05, 2018, 01:07:11 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2018, 01:11:56 AM by THE BuckeyeNut »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.

I am loving all these righteous smackdowns. There are states I'm not too fond of because of their politics or whatever, but I there isn't a single state where I'd want the people there to suffer. I just can't understand that complete lack of empathy.

We Ohio posters of Atlas are a pretty solid bloc, if I may dare to be so bold.

Also, I will add this: Should Kucinich somehow win the Ohio Gubernatorial prinary, I will support him in the general simply because of Medicaid expansion. Roughly 700,000 Ohioans have gained access to healthcare due to expansion, ans both Taylor and DeWine will cut it. I think it would be a moral failing to abdicate support for the one vaguely credible candidate who will support the effort to keep more than half-a-million peiple insured — even if he is a sleeze with questionable judment.
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« Reply #1647 on: May 05, 2018, 10:35:32 AM »


 I generally feel about Ohio the way IceSpear feels about the people of West Virginia.

You are perfectly free to stay out of the state for the rest of your life. I think we'd all be happier for it. But if you don't want to come, please don't poke your head into this thread and actively advocate for Ohioans to suffer because of your prejudices.

I am loving all these righteous smackdowns. There are states I'm not too fond of because of their politics or whatever, but I there isn't a single state where I'd want the people there to suffer. I just can't understand that complete lack of empathy.

I don't want people in Ohio to suffer, I want them to get the Kuch.

You’re getting really boring, so I’m gonna put you on ignore now and recommend anyone else interested in civil discussion or intelligent debate do the same.  Bye.

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« Reply #1648 on: May 05, 2018, 10:47:20 AM »

If a Democrat during the Bush Admin did as much shilling for Bush as Kucinich does for Trump the Left would be calling for their head and rightfully so. Actually we have an example: Joe Lieberman

What changed? Seeing people supposedly left of the Democratic Party support a pro-Trump candidate is a tad hypocritical I'd say.
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« Reply #1649 on: May 05, 2018, 02:33:02 PM »

Anti-establishment horseshoe theory happened. Kucinich has always been the worst type of populist.
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