Whe are some people so opposes to Private Schools?

[John Dibble]

no, I hate private schools because all of them in Mississippi exist for one reason:  to keep out black people.  The racist people who go to them are so arrogant also.

Even if that statement was true, that does not reflect the nature of all private schools. You just hate the racist ones - prejudiced blanket statements will get you nowhere.

[John Dibble]

Opebo is a God-hater, that is why everything he says is so ridiculous.

I find it hard to hate something that doesn't exist.

Prove that God does not exist.

[John Dibble]

Opebo is a God-hater, that is why everything he says is so ridiculous.

I find it hard to hate something that doesn't exist.

Prove that God does not exist.

If he is indeed real, he should be abolished.

How do you know God doesn't agree with you, but has a policy of non-interference in mortal affairs? I find statements like the one you just made rather idiotic, since you don't even know what God is like, should God exist.

[John Dibble]

no, I hate private schools because all of them in Mississippi exist for one reason:  to keep out black people.  The racist people who go to them are so arrogant also.

Even if that statement was true, that does not reflect the nature of all private schools. You just hate the racist ones - prejudiced blanket statements will get you nowhere.

Tell me a private school (not counting parochial schools) in Mississippi that wasn't built during Integration to keep out blacks and I'll retract my statement.

Did you even read my post? I'll repeat it for you:

Even if that statement was true, that does not reflect the nature of all private schools. You just hate the racist ones - prejudiced blanket statements will get you nowhere.

If you hate racist private schools, I'm with you, but hating all private schools because of the actions of those in your state is dumb.

[John Dibble]

Right now, we have the free market is every major huge institution where it is practicable (few would argue for limiting police protection to those who can afford it, for example)...even in the military. The one big exception schools. We have a completely state-run system in schools. And it achieves nothing but one big interest group, and a ton of waste, inefficiency, and bureacratic momentum. The 18 year olds coming out of high schools today learn less in school than 18 year olds coming out 40 years ago. While virtually every other part of our society has improved in the last 40 years, the grade schools have deteriorated. In fact, grade school today is just one big playground where nothing serious is accomplished by the vast majority of people after the 9th grade. I'm simply convinced that students in public schools don't realize what they are missing.

I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I think you're overblowing it a bit. I went to a public school, and it was a very good school - of course, there was also active involvement from the parents, and the school encouraged it. While I agree that private schools are often superior institutions, I argue that the two most important aspects in the educational process are how interested the parent is and how interested the student is(which often has a lot to do with the former). Parents who send their kids to private schools are much more likely to have an active interest, as opposed to public schools where you get a mixed bag. As to the second, I knew a guy who went to a very good private school for all but his last semester of high school - he was kicked out due to low grades, but he was more than smart enough to get an A in all his classes if he only applied himself. No matter what level of quality a school has, if the student isn't interested in learning it does no good. The opposite applies - an interested and determined student in a bad school can do very well(seen this happen, very smart engineering student I know at college was from a crappy high school), though would still likely do better in a better facility.

[John Dibble]

no, I hate private schools because all of them in Mississippi exist for one reason:  to keep out black people.  The racist people who go to them are so arrogant also.

Even if that statement was true, that does not reflect the nature of all private schools. You just hate the racist ones - prejudiced blanket statements will get you nowhere.

Tell me a private school (not counting parochial schools) in Mississippi that wasn't built during Integration to keep out blacks and I'll retract my statement.

Did you even read my post? I'll repeat it for you:

Even if that statement was true, that does not reflect the nature of all private schools. You just hate the racist ones - prejudiced blanket statements will get you nowhere.

If you hate racist private schools, I'm with you, but hating all private schools because of the actions of those in your state is dumb.

Did you read my posts?  I'm not familar with any non-racist private schools.  Now I haven't investigated the private schools outside of my state, but really...why should I?  Every private school I come in contact with is racist, and therefore I hate their existence.

Yes, I did read your post. But if you had been paying attention to everyone else's posts on private schools, you'll note that racism isn't a big topic among them - even among the liberals. Why do you think that is? The obvious answer is most are not like that. Heck, all the ones around where I live are completely non-racist. You have to remember the culture in your state is NOT the same as the cultures in other states. Do you think private schools in a liberal state, like say California, would be racist?

[John Dibble]

Look, I'm a liberal, and yea, I pretty much do hate religion, but does the government have the right to tell parents what is best for their kids? Absolutely not.  And even though I can agree with you alot of the time opebo, calling religious parents tyranical (sp?) is going a little far.  Just as you and me think prevention of religion in our houses would be best, the conserative crowd probably feels just as strongly if not more that Christian or relgious values are essential in life.  Do I like it?  No, but if you are going to fight for individual freedom, like any true liberal does, you also have to remember you're fighting for the freedoms of everybody, not just those that agree with you.  We both want government off ours backs and stop telling us what's best.  If we stopped parents from doing things we don't like, aren't we just as bad?  Gotta take the good with the bad man. 

I was only thinking of the children - the poor, defenseless children at the mercy of religious parents, indoctrinating them into their sick cults.  I don't know that individual rights and freedoms necessarily extend to the right to own/abuse your child.  Obviously at some point we must extend individual rights and freedoms to that child, at the expense of tyrannical parental power.

Secularism is the sickest cult of all. 

I'm secular. Do you think I'm sick?

Secularist aren't one big group, just as Christians aren't. There are many divergent opinions among both communities. For instance, opebo hates religion, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. And if you think secularists are sick, do a little research on the End Timers cult of Lake City, FL - aka Meade Ministries - who are self-proclaimed Christians.

[John Dibble]

I totally acknowledge that private schools in other states might be different.  But the question asked our individual opinions, and my opinion is based on my individual experience.  And I shouldn't be dragging this out and arguing over the point, it's just that I, along with my classmates (even the conservative ones), so utterly despise the private schools in Mississippi that I'll bash them any chance I get.

Well, bash away at the Mississippi private schools, then. Just be sure to leave the decent ones out of your state out of your bashing.