How do Biden’s comments on Israel aid effect the election?
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« on: May 08, 2024, 09:04:51 PM »

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These ones to be specific. He said it on Erin Burnett

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2024, 09:08:03 PM »

Helps Trump if he picks Rubio , hurts if he picks Vance .
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2024, 09:09:59 PM »
« Edited: May 08, 2024, 09:58:41 PM by Vice President Christian Man »

Helps Trump among Jews and Evangelicals, helps Biden among Muslims and young people, neutral with everyone else.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2024, 09:37:53 PM »

Helps Trump among Jews and Evangelicals, Helps Biden among Muslims and young people, neutral with everyone else.

Depends who he picks as VP imo . If he goes all in on the Tucker wing , it wouldn’t help Trump .
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2024, 09:47:19 PM »

It might maybe finally get some skeptical pro-Palestine voters on his side. And I don't think he necessarily alienates any non-orthodox Jews either at this point.

I am open to being wrong though. Perhaps the pro-Palestinian constituencies will never forgive or warm up to Biden.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2024, 10:42:19 PM »

Like many things with Biden it's too little, too late.

Pro-Palestinian voters already spent 7 months feeling betrayed by him.

The bridge has been burned.

Nothing short of Biden coming out in full, unconditional support of a two state solution or abandoning our alliance with Israel completely is gonna bring those voters back.
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2024, 10:43:15 PM »

It might maybe finally get some skeptical pro-Palestine voters on his side. And I don't think he necessarily alienates any non-orthodox Jews either at this point.

I am open to being wrong though. Perhaps the pro-Palestinian constituencies will never forgive or warm up to Biden.

If this was December of last year or even January, I'd say he'd have a shot at bringing the Pro-Pal camp back onside.

But it's been 7 months. They don't trust him anymore.
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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2024, 10:48:37 PM »

I think he will back the pro pals who actually would vote for him without the conflict, specially after he debates Trump.
The ones who said two sides of the same coin in 2022 and before won't vote or will vote third party,as usual.
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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2024, 11:23:26 PM »

Helps Biden a little bit, but because not doing so would cost him votes more than it actually gains him votes.
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2024, 05:53:36 AM »

will cost him lots of votes.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2024, 07:01:34 AM »

it will appeal to the non-insane non-warmongers. ofc it'll upset rabid pro-israel people who want to completely level Gaza and it'll upset the pro-Palestine youth who want him to abandon Israel and let it be destroyed
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2024, 07:30:44 AM »

No effect. To so many of the pro-Palestine voters, this is too little, too late. If anything it's a slap in the face that he didn't do it before.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2024, 10:02:46 AM »

It'll slightly help him. I haven't seen a Democratic campaign that has wanted to win this badly since at least 2008. Typically, the side that wants it more gets it. I think it's because he's afraid of the threat to the establishment that Trump represents. The establishment doesn't want challengers, whether it's from the left or the right.

For the protesters though, it's proof that pushing him from the outside, as non-supporters, rather than slavishly supporting him and hoping he changes, gets better results.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2024, 12:57:37 PM »

He'll almost certainly lose now, but at least he's finally walking the talk.
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2024, 07:54:13 PM »

it will appeal to the non-insane non-warmongers. ofc it'll upset rabid pro-israel people who want to completely level Gaza and it'll upset the pro-Palestine youth who want him to abandon Israel and let it be destroyed
Honestly anyone who had this as a dealbreaker wasn’t gonna vote Biden to begin with imo.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2024, 08:21:15 PM »

There will never be a two-State Solution just like there will never be a two-State Solution between West and East Ukraine.
Israel though actually has a chance to win the War with Hamas once and for all while Ukraine can't.
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