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#1
Sam Ervin (1954-1974)
 
#2
B. Everett Jordan (1958-1973)
 
#3
Jesse Helms (1973-2003)
 
#4
Robert Morgan (1975-1981)
 
#5
John P. East (1981-1986)
 
#6
James Broyhill (1986)
 
#7
Terry Sanford (1986-1993)
 
#8
Lauch Faircloth (1993-1999)
 
#9
John Edwards (1999-2005)
 
#10
Elizabeth Dole (2003-2009)
 
#11
Richard Burr (2005-Present)
 
#12
Kay Hagan (2009-2015)
 
#13
Thom Tillis (2015-Present)
 
#14
Sam Ervin (worst)
 
#15
B. Everett Jordan (worst)
 
#16
Jesse Helms (worst)
 
#17
Robert Morgan (worst)
 
#18
John P. East (worst)
 
#19
James Broyhill (worst)
 
#20
Terry Sanford (worst)
 
#21
Lauch Faircloth (worst)
 
#22
John Edwards (worst)
 
#23
Elizabeth Dole (worst)
 
#24
Richard Burr (worst)
 
#25
Kay Hagan (worst)
 
#26
Thom Tillis (worst)
 
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Blair
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« on: July 08, 2016, 04:37:04 AM »

Tillis may be a xenophobic extremist, but there is an adulterer and an open racist on this list.
Please provide concrete examples on how Jesse Helms was an open racist.

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Supported the White Minority, and racist Government in Rhodesia
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2016, 06:58:10 AM »

You do know it's possible to oppose both Mugabe and Smith right? History looks at Ian Smith as a racist (and I say that with my Dad being born in Rhodesia in the 50's, and living there in the 60's)

Anyway its beside the point. Helms was a cretin, and genuine sh**t. It's possible to be a principled conservative (Orrin Hatch for example) without being like Jesse Helms. Heck if Strom Thurmond is considered less racist than you then you've got a problem
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2016, 02:41:30 PM »

Honest question - is being a racist the worst thing in the world? That's the line most of us have been fed since childhood, but we're all human beings and we're all flawed. Is being a racist so bad that your life's work cannot be viewed in a net positive sense if you are a racist? I don't think so, but from what I've seen in these threads is that the "racists" are immediately branded as beyond redemption, sometimes ahead of convicted criminals and corrupt/inept lawmakers.

No- hence why many democrats/Republicans came to accept people like Bryd, and even Thurmond for moderating their views over the year. There's a difference between supporting segregation in the 60's, and being a poisonous turd like Helms.

Supporting Apartheid South Afirca, Rhodesia, Opposing Martin Luther King Day and his entire efforts to stop HIV/AIDs funding shows that Helms was awful.
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